X95 or T97 Gen3?
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To be fair I think they're all overpriced. I suspect the Tavors more so. Tavors are pretty but in the end just looking for something that will spit a bunch of copper jacketed lead downrange with a reasonable degree of accuracy, not break down much. Not restricted is a bonus. Then again my first AR was a non-restricted Colt from the eighties. It was just plain fun to shoot and back then not very common. Just plain fun to shoot - add that to the list of what I'm looking for.
Gen 3 has a flat top for optics, mloks for lights and such, plus an M4/AR feed ramp bevel for better feeding, reversable non recip charging handle, and ambi (right/left)mag release as opposed to Gen 1. Gen 2 and 3 are pretty close other than the accessory mounting handguard holes.
Like mentioned on many Youtube videos, the gun itself is almost impossible to break and accuracy is on par most other semis costing much more, Cabela has them in stock. I never tried my buddy's on paper at 100 yards but we all had absolutely no challenges hitting a small gong over and over, just goes bang then clang when you want.
you nailed the gen 3 is fun easy to shoot and you cannot destroy it and it shoots what else do you need ...
I've used both and I think the X95 is a better gun to be sure. That being said I got mine for a crazy good deal ($1500). If all my budget allowed for was the G3 T97 I would buy it and feel perfectly confident in it. Just make sure you train with it and learn to compensate for the odd controls.
I've got both rifles. T97 hasn't seen much use compared to my Tavor lol. The charging handle and safety is terrible on the T97. It does go bang every time tho lol
The Tavor has much more user friendly controls, better balanced and easier to field strip. Tavor for the win
Both platforms are minute of man tho lol. Don't expect sub moa accuracy from either of them
The Tavor has much more user friendly controls, better balanced and easier to field strip. Tavor for the win
Both platforms are minute of man tho lol. Don't expect sub moa accuracy from either of them
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T97 is fine, but IMHO the x95 is more refined. Another issue: good luck ever getting parts or service for Norcs...
T97 is fine, but IMHO the x95 is more refined. Another issue: good luck ever getting parts or service for Norcs...
lol show me parts for the x95 available in canada as of today ...
If you are looking in the t97 price range the correct choice would be RDB.
You want something really good? X95
You want a good trigger and accuracy…maybe bullpup ain’t the way to go
so in what really the tavor is 3 times better than the t97? not accuracy not trigger not for the parts available so tell me more ...
Had a Gen 3 T97 that had zero issues, but at the end of the day just didn't like having to upgrade it (more ergo buttplate, had a gunsmith remove the pinned flash hider, was looking at the aluminum lower receiver but didn't want to spend more $$$).
If you have the budget for an x95 (on sale usually around $2400-2500) just go for it. Everything just works and no major upgrades are needed.
The polymer on the X95 is also a step up from the cheaper feeling T97 - feels less like a toy.
If you have the budget for an x95 (on sale usually around $2400-2500) just go for it. Everything just works and no major upgrades are needed.
The polymer on the X95 is also a step up from the cheaper feeling T97 - feels less like a toy.
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I'm shocked the French military is so backwards. Just because you were taught that way doesn't make it right. Safeties are of paramount importance. All tye training in the world doesn't make up for being human. A non ergonomic safety doesn't excuse that in any way.
the safety is between your ears not at your hands ... and it was done at the end of the 80s when they just received the famas. what you think of a civilian use is great but in the army the goal is not peace ... the same when we were given ammo and magazines the magazine was insirted but no live round into the chamber. to feed it was natural and easy.
up to that day i do not rely on safety and it is not part of my of using firearms and that is not the way to PROVE it anyway ...
i do not know what is your military training and under which rules you were trained but it worked for my unit.
later on i used safety on the frf1 and frf2 but that was a bolt action.
up to that day i do not rely on safety and it is not part of my of using firearms and that is not the way to PROVE it anyway ...
i do not know what is your military training and under which rules you were trained but it worked for my unit.
later on i used safety on the frf1 and frf2 but that was a bolt action.
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If budget is a concern: T-97
If money is no object: Tavor
Full disclosure: I own a Gen 1 T-97 and have only ever handled a Tavor. I have used and trained with C7's/C8's/AR types for two decades, firing untold amounts of ammo, and I can honestly say that the ergo's of the T-97 (or bull-pups in general) aren't nearly as bad as some people make them out to be. It's personal preference really. I don't have any "training scars", and a man should be able to use more than one tool.
My T-97 has been flawless, as has my Chinese M-14S and SKS'es. They make decent guns, you just have to look around. For 1/3rd the price, I feel like I got a lot more than 1/3rd the rifle. Zero issues with mags, accuracy, or reliability from me, but this has all been static range and crown-land use. If you are doing competition with a lot of moving and shooting, than you may want the user friendly-ness and resale value of a Tavor (at least until Justine bans them). Though you can always put out the feelers for some Type-97.ca made lower hand guards or uppers, if that's your thing. The lack of a trigger block style safety above the pistol grip never bothered me as the trigger pull required is substantial, and my pistols don't have manual safeties either, and I have yet to ND with any of them (knocks wood).
If money is no object: Tavor
Full disclosure: I own a Gen 1 T-97 and have only ever handled a Tavor. I have used and trained with C7's/C8's/AR types for two decades, firing untold amounts of ammo, and I can honestly say that the ergo's of the T-97 (or bull-pups in general) aren't nearly as bad as some people make them out to be. It's personal preference really. I don't have any "training scars", and a man should be able to use more than one tool.
My T-97 has been flawless, as has my Chinese M-14S and SKS'es. They make decent guns, you just have to look around. For 1/3rd the price, I feel like I got a lot more than 1/3rd the rifle. Zero issues with mags, accuracy, or reliability from me, but this has all been static range and crown-land use. If you are doing competition with a lot of moving and shooting, than you may want the user friendly-ness and resale value of a Tavor (at least until Justine bans them). Though you can always put out the feelers for some Type-97.ca made lower hand guards or uppers, if that's your thing. The lack of a trigger block style safety above the pistol grip never bothered me as the trigger pull required is substantial, and my pistols don't have manual safeties either, and I have yet to ND with any of them (knocks wood).
