The Templar Thread, 5.56 by Crusader Arms / Spectre LTD

Bartok5 said:
Not calling you a liar, just growing weary of the continuous claims of $1200 AR180 clones shooting 1 MOA with Norinco ammo all day, every day, never backed up by actual targets, with actual groupings. Sorry if I offended with my use of your specific, declared group sizes. They are siimply typical of what I frequently see claimed without evidence.

I agree 100% with what 84wh1 said in relation to people's unrealistic expectations of accuracy performance. 2 MOA is actually pretty good and is entirely acceptable for most military-style semi-autoatic rifle action and barrel combinations. Even 3 MOA is not uncommon (eg. Tavor/X95) and while "meh" it would still satisfy military specifications.
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The fact I can get ~1.5 MOA groups out of my ACR with bulk 55gr Federal makes me happy, but that never stops somebody touting that they can make half inch groups with surplus :stirthepot2:

####, I can too if I get closer...
 
In my limited range time on a Sentinel I'd ballpark it somewhere between 2-2.5moa with 55gr Federal. Take that with a grain of salt but at least it's a number to work off of.
 
DaveMachine said:
500 internet points to the man who posts pictures of the guts and piston.
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straight outta TACCOM

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My chief concern with the Templar is the placement of the Charging Handle, which I can see interfering with some optics mounts. Time and an opportunity to mess with the rifle will tell the tale. I will probably pick one up to compare with the R18, as I am curious to see where (if anywhere) corners were cut to meet the 2K pricepoint.
 
Thats a well written piece. Point is well made about the samples being better fit and finish than production. I like the Templar with the trigger and folding stock option.
 
Just a note that Crusader is confident enough in the Templar's design they are opening a factorum in the U.S. to allow them to sell into that very competitive market. I can't remember on which post, but they stated this on an Instagram comment.
 
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Just had a thought, do you think Warhammer 40000 would be up for some cross promotion with Crusader? The Templar does look bolter-esque, and a guy in Space Marine armor at Shotshow with an MLOK chainsword bayonet on the Templar would be cool.
 
Bartok5 said:
My chief concern with the Templar is the placement of the Charging Handle, which I can see interfering with some optics mounts. Time and an opportunity to mess with the rifle will tell the tale. I will probably pick one up to compare with the R18, as I am curious to see where (if anywhere) corners were cut to meet the 2K pricepoint.
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In my experience the charging handle location isn't an issue, at least when used with a non-qd cantilevered mount and a LPVO.
 
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