Christmas Sale GNG Carcano Moschetto
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When mine arrived from Marstar, in was in a box with a bunch of wadded up paper around the barrel and front part of the stock. Nothing around the butt, it was just flopping around in there. Thankfully, Canada Post was gentle with it, the parcel was in good condition.
Not necessarily according to this page
https://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/models.html
Please note that the round barrel base (instead of the old half-octagonal configuration with five facets on the upper side and a round base) was already introduced way before 1938 for the last M91 carbines and is not a sign for a M91/38 model in and by itself.
Eaglelord17
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M38s were both 7.35 and 6.5. There was also 3 different M38 variants. They all have a standard rifling instead of progressive though. Your 1941 Brescia is still a M38 as it has the standard rifling even though that was the only factory to return to a adjustable sight for the M38 rifles.
Here is a quick identification list which is handy for some rough model outlines.
https://surplused.com/index.php/201...uick-and-dirty-guide-to-carcano-rifle-models/
M38 moschetto's have several differences. Different sight, different position of the sight on the barrel, different handguard, different manufacturers.
The biggest practical difference is the rear sight though.
The biggest practical difference is the rear sight though.
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Also, it's not true that m38 moschetto's don't have progressive rifling in general. Some might have fixed rate rifling, not sure, but the ones I've recently measured, including the gardone VT I have in front of me measure out to be progressive. Not the eyeball check, I checked twist at both ends and the rifling is faster on the muzzle end.
Longbranch1943
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Thats because lots of m38s actually started life out as m91 moschetto cavalerias. Hexagonal barrel facets were machined round and only the old serial number was restamped onto the barrel, along with the sight and bayonet conversions. A true from the ground up m38 moschetto de cavelleria will have normal rifling.
Longbranch1943
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No, m91s from the 30s exhibit rounded barrel shanks. I will consult my reference books on the exact date when I have a chance.
What is your published source for that info? When I measure the knox forms on hex barrel m91 moschetto's pre-1936, most of them don't have enough meat to machine away the flats to an m38 profile. Also, the sight mounting bosses for an m38 sight are further forward on the barrel that any of the m91 moschetto's variants. They had to be made that way. The mounting bosses aren't brazed on, they are machined from the barrel material.
The few examples that are obviously converted have smaller diameter shanks and you can see the remains of the rear sight mounting screw as a divot on the barrel behind the rear sight.
I have not seen every rifle, but the examples I have available to examine could not be converted barrels, unless they worked with unfinished blanks.
I'm going to do the same as I did with my first Carcano. I just bought JB weld and gobbed it on then brought a set of small files to the range with me. I sanded it down shot by shot until my POA and POI were the same. The JB weld is a medium grey colour, so it doesn't stand out too-too bad. I wasn't able to find myself a new front post, so this was the route I went. Not the most pretty, but neither is the gun
fritzhanzel
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I'm going to do the same as I did with my first Carcano. I just bought JB weld and gobbed it on then brought a set of small files to the range with me. I sanded it down shot by shot until my POA and POI were the same. The JB weld is a medium grey colour, so it doesn't stand out too-too bad. I wasn't able to find myself a new front post, so this was the route I went. Not the most pretty, but neither is the gun
Same you do basically with the K11, 1896/11 and the rest. They offer different inserts in the US but who wants to bother ordering anything gun related.
Great idea with the JB weld and filing it down. I always shoot at the low part of the target at 100m, now I have the badace mount and a LER scope, haven't tested it yet.
Funny you mention that because I actually ordered the correct (adjusted for 100y) front sight post for my K11. I would have ordered a new calibrated front sight for the Carcano as well if they'd been readily available and decently priced
Some people are buying tall swede Mauser front sights from Brownells, filing the site to make it fit the dovetail, and then filing it down at the range until it prints for elevation at 100m with the preferred load.
It's an option.
Ah man! Where was that idea before I gobbed on JB Weld the other day haha
Who knows if I'll kick myself in the future for this. Currently we are in the same "trap" as "SKS's are only $149 so who cares what you do to them" or "Lee Enfields are only $29 so who cares what you do to them" or [insert any number of once-cheap surplus rifles here]
The front site for the M95 straight pull works with a bit of filing. Tall front site.
2 of my 3 had old paper stickers that flaked off, but not held on by tacks. They were near the rear sling swivel.
