Henry's PCC -yes it takes glock mags

Well there goes Chiappa's M1-9's only exclusive marketability trait, having a wood stock. It still has style points for looking like an M1 carbine but this Henry homesteader looks to just be a plain better rifle if you want a wood stocked PCC.
 
Yeah they should also make it in 44 magnum, with a non scary 5 round magazine, and in stainless steel.
The 9mm crowd has enough choices, and I wouldn't even consider one to hunt with, but a 44 magnum would get a lot of attention.

Now that would be a winner in the Ontario deer woods!
 
...357 or 44 mag would be cooler.

Sure it would, but you won't see those with a straight blowback action.


Is it me or that barel looks shorter than 18.5

Correct - Hopefully they make a Canadian version, but who knows?


Exactly, how is this different from a ruger?...

How about the fact that it's not just an overweight 10/22 in 9mm? The Ruger PCC is great for what it is, but I think there's plenty of room for competition. There are only so many ways to make a straight blowback PCC, which is one of the reasons why there really isn't that much difference between the current PCC options in Canada. Regardless, here is a quick list of differences I can see with the Henry:

- Aesthetics
- Lighter barrel, heavier stock (possibly a big difference in handling)
- Tang mount safety
- Centerline mag release
- Ambi bolt release
- Removable picatinny rail
- Proprietary magazine option
 
Exactly,
how is this different from a ruger?

It needs to be better or cheaper or have feature that ruger doesn't offer (like unique caliber)

Just because its wood wont get it under the C-21 radar

I had a ruger pc carbine. Every screw rattled itself loose. Sweeping up brass, found front sight screw on floor. Fore - end screw rattles itself loose. 3 screw on the receiver at the 3,6,9 o'clock position will loosen up. 2 receiver screws loose. Charging handle loose. Plastic stock on the ruger is nothing to write home about.

Saying that, the ruger will chew all brass, steel, and aluminum ammo without issue.

With a 16" barrel, the Henry would be restricted.

It's cool that Henry dropped something new but much rather see them pump out their current offerings.
 
Taking on Ruger...not sure how they'll fair unless they bring something else to the table.

I'd look at one if they brought out other calibers like 45acp and 10mm

Or one chambered in 7.62x25 that takes Tok mags.

I do like the look of the Henry, wood stock, peep sights, ability to mount a tail and threaded muzzle. Lots of modern features in a not so tactical package, the market is full of black rifle pcc stylings. Nice to see something styled differently.
 
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Ack...why did this have to be semi auto and not a lever action? I agree with other posters...this is just going to compete with an already crowded auto PCC market.
 
Also Butler Creek's packaging makes no mention of the charger, yet they still banned them...
I like the look of the Henry, but unless we get a change of government in the next year this will be banned before we can even get our hands on 'em. While wood furniture may be more appealing to the anti's than black plastic, its still not going to get around the "Centerfire semi auto with detachable magazines" definition the Liberals are looking to make law.

Agree with the packaging. I have a BC banana mag circa 2006 or so before the Charger pistol even was a product, and the packaging said "for the Ruger 10/22" so as you stated, there would have been no difference.

I don't think the wood matters, since the predominantly wood-furnitured mini14 was banned in 2020. Besides, the Polys and such can always just find or put black furniture on it and whammo, it's included in the pictorial just like they did last year when they sent public safety their colour pictorial and interestingly enough, all common wood stocked rifles like the SKS, the Polys used the tapco furniture edition as they did for other models. I agree that if it operates as a semi auto, it will have a fast track into a revised G46 amendment...
 
Agree with the packaging. I have a BC banana mag circa 2006 or so before the Charger pistol even was a product, and the packaging said "for the Ruger 10/22" so as you stated, there would have been no difference.

I don't think the wood matters, since the predominantly wood-furnitured mini14 was banned in 2020. Besides, the Polys and such can always just find or put black furniture on it and whammo, it's included in the pictorial just like they did last year when they sent public safety their colour pictorial and interestingly enough, all common wood stocked rifles like the SKS, the Polys used the tapco furniture edition as they did for other models. I agree that if it operates as a semi auto, it will have a fast track into a revised G46 amendment...

North Sylva had a post like last week advertising 25rd (pinned to 10) butler creek mags, and the packaging STILL made no mention of the Charger.

And I agree that wood isn't going to matter at this point. A few years ago that might have been enough to get them to look the other way, but now we see they are going after ALL semi autos with detachable magazines, regardless of the look of them - the Winchester 100, Remington 740, Browning BAR are all on the block with their amendments to C21 due to the existence of magazines that hold more than 5 rounds and those guns are about as Fuddy as you can get.

There is TWO situations where I can see this actually making it to Canada: First is an election with a CPC victory.

Second is if they narrow the scope of their definition. If they change their definition to something that would exclude the older semi auto hunting rifles like the Win100 and Rem740, perhaps something like the US ban from the 90s where it must meet more than 1 criteria from a list, such as collapsing or folding stock, pistol grip, threaded barrel, then this might be able to make it past their definition of prohibited firearm. Personally I don't think its going to change though, I think they'll spend the time and money on doing consultations in the spring, and then push their definition through anyways with an exemption for sustenance hunters or some crap.
 
North Sylva had a post like last week advertising 25rd (pinned to 10) butler creek mags, and the packaging STILL made no mention of the Charger.

And I agree that wood isn't going to matter at this point. A few years ago that might have been enough to get them to look the other way, but now we see they are going after ALL semi autos with detachable magazines, regardless of the look of them - the Winchester 100, Remington 740, Browning BAR are all on the block with their amendments to C21 due to the existence of magazines that hold more than 5 rounds and those guns are about as Fuddy as you can get.

There is TWO situations where I can see this actually making it to Canada: First is an election with a CPC victory.

Second is if they narrow the scope of their definition. If they change their definition to something that would exclude the older semi auto hunting rifles like the Win100 and Rem740, perhaps something like the US ban from the 90s where it must meet more than 1 criteria from a list, such as collapsing or folding stock, pistol grip, threaded barrel, then this might be able to make it past their definition of prohibited firearm. Personally I don't think its going to change though, I think they'll spend the time and money on doing consultations in the spring, and then push their definition through anyways with an exemption for sustenance hunters or some crap.

Thanks...just looked at the other thread. Interesting...guess the higher price must account for the plastic packaging as opposed to the baggie packaging for the days I bought mine eons ago.

I just looked up the Homesteader specs - look like the the MSRP is $928 USD for the Henry magwell and $958 for the Glock magwell which is around $1250 - $1300 Cdn. It is certainly better than the $2000+ Tombstone lever action 9mm, but boy, there are a lot of other comparable options already in Canada which have been tried and tested around that Henry price point already
 
Thanks...just looked at the other thread. Interesting...guess the higher price must account for the plastic packaging as opposed to the baggie packaging for the days I bought mine eons ago.

I just looked up the Homesteader specs - look like the the MSRP is $928 USD for the Henry magwell and $958 for the Glock magwell which is around $1250 - $1300 Cdn. It is certainly better than the $2000+ Tombstone lever action 9mm, but boy, there are a lot of other comparable options already in Canada which have been tried and tested around that Henry price point already

I haven't seen a compelling argument that this is worth $400 more than a ruger. (Maybe it is, i just haven't been sold on it yet)

But id def spend that $ on a nice 9mm lever. (But not $2k on a lever)
 
I really hope that the Liberals nonsesical 5 round nonsense goes away with the rest of their bad ideas... that said the new henry comes with either a henry mag well, glock or sig.
But they apparently designed their henry mags at 5 and 10 rounds capacity.

I wonder if they could modify this into a pump action down the road?
 
The 5 rd mag rule is really just a way to ban all mags as theoretically someone could 3d print a bigger one.
#NatureFindsAWay
 

44 mag would be cool, but if it uses a proprietary magazine it would be limited to 5 anyways. You'd need a 44mag pistol magazine (desert eagle perhaps? I can't think of another 44mag handgun...) to get to a 10 round limit.



Henry doesn't make handguns that I am aware of, so the base model with the henry magazine would be limited to 5, no?

Everyone is going to want the glock mag version here if thats the case.

The 5 rd mag rule is really just a way to ban all mags as theoretically someone could 3d print a bigger one.
#NatureFindsAWay

Nevermind theoretically. Every semi auto with detachable mags I can think of has >5 round magazines already.
 
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