Update On Ontario Restricted Transfer Times
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1northernboy
CGN Regular
- Location
- GTA Ontario
So essentially they are saying they would rather waste taxpayers money with overtime than work efficiently and batch the transfers like other provinces!!!
This should be brought up with the Ombudsman
Exactly, their “strategies” don’t do anything to actually address the efficiency of the approval process, just that a few people are putting in extra hours.
Essentially they're saying no one there gives a sh!t that we have to wait an extremely long time to receive our already purchased property.
And the ombudsman doesn't give a sh!t either, or else it would have been raised and addressed by now. We've been writing the ombudsman for months suggesting that the CFO batch process these transfers.
This is slow rolling across multiple departments, pure and simple. They know it and we know it.
Contrast this to last year's passport delays.
A big outcry from opposition politicians and in the media, giving government a huge PR problem that forced them to respond.
Not such a big deal when it comes to gun owners.
That and they are flat out lying- according to our sheets they aren’t at August 15. They also are saying individual transfers are at the same pace, also a lie. Do they think we’re stupid? I’ve reached back out to the ombudsmen and am going to email them until something happens.
They are just milking overtime for more pay, not to expedite anything. Otherwise they’d be hammering overtime every week night/weekend. And the transfer speed would be getting faster, not slower. Argh, rant over, I just want my property.
cptseawolf
CGN Regular
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Maybe we should refocus our letter writing to the news outlets - write the CBC, CTV, Global, newspapers...
inconsistent shooter
Member
you're funny.
The lie-bral media do not care. They care less than the lie-bral government. They are owned (through taxpayer subsidies) by the lie-bral government.
Don't believe me? Read any "article" or "opinion" piece published in any mainstream canadian print publication, analyuze the words they use. Like "weapon", "sprayed with bullets" etc etc. You don't see them using the word weapon with baseball bats or knives. Nor do they describe a stabbing as "slashed, hacked to death" (though they have no probelm writing "shot to death".
our only hope is for the 2.1+ M firearms licence owners to be nice to each other and to speak to the average canadians we all know, explaining the firearms sports, and crushing all the lie-bral myths about law adiding firearms owners. (Read my footer)
Here's the problem... They know that this is only a temporary issue and they're just going to wait it out. Once they get caught up on this pile of transfers in the next few months they're not going to have anything left to do, so they aren't going to bring on a pile of new staff. Unfortunately we're just along for the ride now.
They don’t need to hire anymore staff. They need to do batch approvals and the backlog would clear in no time. It makes no sense that people have multiple transfers waiting for approval and they clear one and then wait until they get to the next one and clear it. Why would I get approved for my first transfer, but not my fifth?
I understand there may be more work involved for private to private transfers, having the verify the information of both the seller and buyer. But I can’t see why they wouldn’t be doing batch approvals for business transactions.
That's what I've been doing since the OiC. Several have either taken or signed up for the PAL and RPAL courses. Unfortunately due to COVID, there wasn't enough classes to sign up for.
Every PAL/RPAL needs to act as an ambassador. National Range Day was a huge success. Even if it was a bit 'late' and should have been happening for decades.
Partnerships with other orgs would help too, like mental health and suicide prevention orgs.
If you cant spare some ammo to get non-gunnies to shoot, you'll lose it all by government policy changes.
That's a great question. I'm genuinely curious too about exactly what happens in the transfer process.
From the new generic response from the CFO, posted a couple of pages back:
What are they checking that takes so much time? And why are the OPP and SG even involved? All buyers and sellers (both private and businesses) are already vetted and licensed for restricted, and presumably re-confirmed every day by CFP as part of Continuous Eligibility Screening. So the exercise should be merely a clerical one within the CFO... check/confirm the restricted status of the buyer and seller, and then enter the information related to the buyer, seller, and firearm into the restricted registry. Not terribly time-consuming stuff...
P2P now surpassed B2P?! Amazing how they can catch up so fast when they put effort into it.
When people in Ontario are waiting longer for hip and knee replacements than we're waiting for our handguns I doubt you'd get much media uptake.
fortytwo45
Regular
- Location
- London, Ontario
The volume of P2P transfer approvals is just average so for this week. You are giving them to much credit. I don't think they have been putting any extra effort into P2P approvals. They did not work any overtime on the weekend on P2P but they did on B2P. I don't think there were as many P2P transfers initiated at the end of July and the first two weeks of August with buyers and sellers on vacation.
