Ruger Scout 308 vs 450 - Deer Rifle

Not as ugly as an SKS lol

I don't even like the idea of a 16" 308 Win. I'd have to be high to think a 7.62x39 compares to one though.
 
The poor performance of the short barreled 308 must be embarrassing. In fairness it's not just the 308 though, I had a 15.5" Mexican Mauser that didn't even break 2000 fps with some factory loads.
 
I wouldn't be embarrased at all in a 168gr bullet delivering 2550 FPS and 1933 ft/lbs at 100 yards. Does your SKS do that? Does a 150gr from the bubba Enfield?

Then there's the quality 150gr bullets at 2700+ fps or a 130gr TTSX at 2900, because I handload :) This "factory ammo" of which you speak is not my only option.

Such poor. Much embarrassed. If only I had a Bubbaed Enfield or an SKS instead lol. I could look at my 5" groups at 100 yards and delude myself that they compare to a 308. I can't believe you stuck with it after saying it the first time instead of just bowing out.
 
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MiG25 said:
So ya gotta handload the suck out of the Ruger.
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Beating a 22" 303 without needing to handload is the new definition of "suck"?

What's that say for rifles that need 7" more barrel just to hang lol. Like "Dyson suck"? "One night in Bangkok suck"? Over half a foot of barrel headstart to still lose.

I'd be salty here too :)
 
With 3" of barrel the 303 beats the 308. And yeah, not beating the 303 British is the definition of suck, it's only been around since 1888 and was originally a black powder cartridge.
 
MiG25 said:
With 3" of barrel the 303 beats the 308. And yeah, not beating the 303 British is the definition of suck, it's only been around since 1888 and was originally a black powder cartridge.
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Except for all the loads where it doesn't lol.

But lets ignore those again. We're good at that.
 
PS: At least you CAN handload some suck out of the 308...7.62x39 is kinda stuck with it. 303 to a large extent as well.

Who wants greater potential anyway :) Commie bullet love you long time, just don't ask about 150gr. Too boo-coo for little case.
 
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You know the original question was for a 100 yard and in deer rifle right? You'll have a long row to hoe to show the shorty 308 outclasses the SKS with S&B ammo (the PPU is supposed to be even faster but it isn't for me) or the Parker Hale 303 for deer at those ranges.

The only 308 worth owning is a pre mil Savage 99. $2 Grand taxes in for a rifle that falls behind a Fuddtastic 303 is craziness.

If I wanted a gun within those parameters I would get a Browning Auto 5 Buck Special but that's just me.
 
He said a 100, maybe 150-200 yard deer rifle. He didn't say he wants a piece of shidt.

It outclasses the SKS in having much better irons, a trigger that doesn't feel like the last turn of the key opening a spam, being about 5x more accurate, lots more ergonimic, not having a length of pull for made for an Oompa Loompa and its way easier to mount optics on. They actually even hold zero. Its pretty cool. And, if you go with a synthetic version its more than two pounds lighter to boot!

As for the cost...some people actually have the money and don't mind spending it lol.

At this point, one might as well say "how is any gun/cartridge better than the SKS for deer at one hundred yards" if we're going to say theres no need for anything more powerful for deer than 7.62x39mm. But I am betting some people actually want more power than that.

And here's the part where we plug our ears and go "La la la la" and engage our selective memory and forget all about the 308 Win loads that beat 303 Brit from the longer barrel. Again.

Gee, shall I try to predict what you'll say in your next post, too? :p

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Wow those numbers...I'm sooooo embarrassed!
 
If I WAS gonna buy a Ruger Scout for a 100-200 yard deer rifle....SFRC's sale and the 350 Legend get tempting lol.

And at least the Ranch models are a pound lighter than an SKS even with a good scope around them (on a mount that holds zero lol) and shoot rings around it.

But I suppose I should sell my Tikka and buy an SKS anyway. After all hows it better lol

Butcherbill said:
Lol, sure bud. You can’t even compare the sks to a Ruger scout. Keep on hating…
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Its like complaining about the movie star having fake tits and being high maintenance while the fat broad at the trailer park with 8 teeth and the shiner is a cheap date lol
 
Here we go with paying over double what anyone with a brain would pay for a box of ammo and cherry picking the data as if its the only load on the market again lol.

I'd pay the extra $1500 to not have to hunt with an SKS too.

Unless it comes with a cool rice paddy hat and some ho chi minh sandals maybe. might as well look the part. Those tiny little notch and post irons must be sooo good at low light hunting too.

1770 ft/lbs at 100 yards. Whats the 7.62x39 getting there with again? lol with the one load you're cherry picking to put up against the loads you're cherry picking for the 308...
 
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If someone places a Ruger Scout and an SKS in front of you and tells you that you can pick one for free to keep and hunt with but not sell it...Which rifle would you pick? Is anyone going to pick the SKS over the Scout?
 
Butcherbill said:
Show me a sks that shoots 1” 5 shot groups @ 100y with any ammo lol.
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I'd be impressed with consistent 3"

(unless you're "handloading the suck" out of it but even then lol).

Handles better, lighter, better sights, better trigger, better cartridges/bullets, more accurate, easier to put optics on....who'd want that?

American made products are more expensive than Chinese slave goods? Since when lol
 
Gatehouse said:
If someone places a Ruger Scout and an SKS in front of you and tells you that you can pick one for free to keep and hunt with but not sell it...Which rifle would you pick? Is anyone going to pick the SKS over the Scout?
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So that's it, they gotta give away shorty 308 Rugers.
 
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