Type-81 pictures, range reports, and modifications thread

[Ustauk]

Well, I failed on the picture taking front because we had too much fun shooting to remember to take any. Yesterday went out with some guys from work and brought out, among other things, the T81 LMG. We were messing around with plates at 100 yards, ~500 yards, and one at ~850 yards. Couldn't figure out what the manufacturer was using as reference when marking the sight adjustments as when we switched from the 100 to 500 yard plate and I dialed the wheel to the 5, we were hitting like 10 feet high. Ended up dialing back down to the 1 and were correct for elevation. Then for the 850, it seemed keeping the sight on 1 and just using the top notch on the sight worked well enough. Given the wind of shooting across a small valley, the limits of our own skill, and the obvious limits of x39 bulk surplus ammo, we were making mainly just a bunch of noise and few impacts lol

Our 500 yard plate was about 8"x14" and we were dancing all around it (if it had been a 14x14 we would have hit it LOTS) with hits about every 10th shot. Our 850 yard was about a 18"x18" and we stirred up a lot of dust around it, but only hit it twice for all the rounds we chucked. As expected, of the 150 rounds we ran through the gun, zero malfunctions

Brandon Herrera described the sites like this in his recent video, https://youtu.be/1Gz-vUTc3Cw?feature=shared, on the L M

...the rear sight here actually has a rotating knob that adjusts the site as necessary corresponding to a near and far sight so whether you're using the bottom or top notch is where you'll be hitting at one of the two distances ...

A now deleted Reddit member pointed out GNutzGuy on YouTube had provided a more detailed explanation in one of his videos,https://youtu.be/gllufPRtsQc?feature=shared&t=725 , at time index 12:20:

... you're using the bottom cut okay now here just to make it easier for you this is your rear sight if you're using one three four five hundred meters your front post which is red would be in line with the bottom cut okay if you're using six seven hundred meters your front post is now moved up to the top of the bar which is now cut

 

[DiMP]

A now deleted Reddit member pointed out GNutzGuy on YouTube had provided a more detailed explanation in one of his videos,[Link Broken For Forum Cleanliness] , at time index 12:20:

Thanks for that!

 

[armilaria]

I have really struggled with the lMG sights. I wish mine had a rail and scope. I honestly can not seem to consistently shoot it on target. At 100 m it is all over the place.

 

[DiMP]

I have really struggled with the lMG sights. I wish mine had a rail and scope. I honestly can not seem to consistently shoot it on target. At 100 m it is all over the place.

With whatever bulk surplus I put through mine I can easily hit a 8" plate at 100 yards 100% of the time from the bipod. That being said, when I bought mine I needed quite a bit of adjustment to the sites to get it on target

 

[bnk2]

I have really struggled with the lMG sights. I wish mine had a rail and scope. I honestly can not seem to consistently shoot it on target. At 100 m it is all over the place.

It could be the bipod. Where/how it's mounted can induce a dramatic POI shift when deployed. Hence why there's virtually no such thing as a barrel mounted bipod for any sort of precision use.

 

[rugbydave]

Is there a good option for adding an mlok slot or pic rail to the bottom of the LMG handguard, kinda like the 3BarD one for the SR? Has anyone just bolted a pic rail to the lower handguard? I've done that plenty of times with fibreglass stocks (M14s, etc) over the years, just drill the bottom of the handguard, epoxy in some t-nuts and screw the rail on. I wonder how well the wood would hold up? I'd want to mount a bipod occasionally. I'd probably want to do the same thing to the side of the lower handguard to mount a wml as well.

 

[Murray 3-D]

I think the lower handguard would handle it just fine.

 

[rugbydave]

I think the lower handguard would handle it just fine.

Thanks man, figured if anyone would know, it'd be you, haha.

 

[Kaido]

What mounts are guys running on the Sigmaco side rail? I want a full length pic rail and am thinking of grabbing an Midwest Industries AK side mount. Also, is there a mount that is better than others for getting your optic on the rifle's centreline or do most guys use and offset zero?

I ended up going with an AK Master Mount rail and optic mount. It was specifically made for the Type 81 and uses the factory threaded pins.

Then you can run any of their AKM mounts. I’ve currently got a rear biased one on the rifle, but might was to either a full length or a forward biased.

 

[bfiles]

I ended up going with an AK Master Mount rail and optic mount. It was specifically made for the Type 81 and uses the factory threaded pins.

Then you can run any of their AKM mounts. I’ve currently got a rear biased one on the rifle, but might was to either a full length or a forward biased.

How did you go abouts ordering it? I can't find an ADD TO CART button

 

[rugbydave]

What's the best source for flash hiders for the M16 threaded LMGs? I know there's the TI ones but I'm looking for something more akin to an A2.

Conversely, I could go with the slant compensator but am curious what kind of a fireball it'll make as I intend to shoot at night and would like to keep the flash down.

 

[Kaido]

How did you go abouts ordering it? I can't find an ADD TO CART button

Soooo I never actually had to order it from them, long story short I've got a prototype version since my rifle was used to test fit since they don't have access the the Type 81 down there...with out spending wild amounts of money anyways.


You should be able to just fire off an email and order that way. I'm not sure why there isn't an add to cart option.
From the sounds of it, Ti should also be getting a shipment of them in as well, so you might be able to ask them about what their ETA is.

 

[Curtton]

I ended up going with an AK Master Mount rail and optic mount. It was specifically made for the Type 81 and uses the factory threaded pins.

Then you can run any of their AKM mounts. I’ve currently got a rear biased one on the rifle, but might was to either a full length or a forward biased.

interesting, its US$85 plus ship so obviously no problem shipping to canada.

 

[Kaido]

interesting, its US$85 plus ship so obviously no problem shipping to Canada.

Nope, no issues at all having it sent up this way. It was also made more so for the Canadian market since the guys down south don't seem to keen on "messing up" their multi-thousand dollar Type 81s. lol

 

[Murray 3-D]

I wonder if those are the "new" picatinny side mounts they had announced were coming this fall.... kindov an odd circumstance considering Herron Arms produced roughly the same thing for probably far less money.

 

[ridgearms]

I ended up going with an AK Master Mount rail and optic mount. It was specifically made for the Type 81 and uses the factory threaded pins.

Then you can run any of their AKM mounts. I’ve currently got a rear biased one on the rifle, but might was to either a full length or a forward biased.

Thank you for this. I’ve been searching for options for a week.

 

[Roog]

For anyone that mounted a sigmaco quadrail on your SR, how much of the ferrule did you have to modify to get it to fit? Did you have to cut the thing right off?

 

[brapjack]

Alright, this Type 81 has gone through numerous renditions, from stained wood to modded Magpul ak handguard, but I think it's finally done... So I locked it in and solidified our destiny with some heavy layers of rattle can paint.

I first thought changing up the wood colour was all it needed... Wrong

And then I thought well I just need 2, then I can add plastic to the beater and keep one classicish (bakelite AK grip)...Wrong, plastics are for puccies.

Then I gave the "classic" to my wife... but needed a flashlight sooo we added slots for M look... Not mine sooo no go on the, "Ewww you ruined your rifle by painting it", says my lovely wife. So this one is done sans paint but has the recoil pad for the intense kick of the 7.62... whatever you say, sweetheart...

Finally, I got some cheese grater hand guard to rough up my soft, weak hands. A sigmaco 90* safety for ease of use, and that AK style grip... tossed a light on it.... and of course some airsoft vertical PK06 vertical grip....we are so close to being complete...

OK its time to make it mine...

Destiny secured for life

If you need some inspiration to clean the sand out of your vagieeen as I did and man up to paint your rifle, watch this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=767PMUMx8bM
Paint you rifle.

 

[ridgearms]

I got a response from ak master mount. Rail is $75 usd and does not come with threaded pins. Will also require right side safety which they do not provide as well. They will ship to canada and send invoice. Shipping is $25 usd. They suggested to go to tactical imports to get a whole package as they are supplying them.

 

[Curtton]

I got a response from ak master mount. Rail is $75 usd and does not come with threaded pins. Will also require right side safety which they do not provide as well. They will ship to canada and send invoice. Shipping is $25 usd. They suggested to go to tactical imports to get a whole package as they are supplying them.

We are working on picatinny side-mount for T81 series, hope to have available for the fall

thanks for the info. AK master is making the rails for TI so it should be avail pretty soon and at approx C$115.