And be able to use it in states where bottlenecked cartridges are prohibited, and make it work in an AR, and make it out of the first stage of 223 Rem brass so you can get practice ammo at $18.99 CAN per box and...
Last edited:
358 Winchester
- Thread starter jethunter
- Start date
And be able to use it in states where bottlenecked cartridges are prohibited, and make it work in an AR, and make it out of the first stage of 223 Rem brass so you can get practice ammo at $18.99 CAN per box and...
I always wanted a .358 either in lever or short bolt action rifle but et availability or price keep me out of the game!
But now I see intersurplus has 9,3x57 mm rifles in the $300 range! Same balistics as the 358app. And since you have to reload for both why not go with the cheaper one?
Just thinking out loud! What are you tought on that!
358 or 9,3x57 mm?
But now I see intersurplus has 9,3x57 mm rifles in the $300 range! Same balistics as the 358app. And since you have to reload for both why not go with the cheaper one?
Just thinking out loud! What are you tought on that!
358 or 9,3x57 mm?
I'm with you on that, enoch
it seems everyone gets their happy on with a 9.3x57 converted to x64, as though the little guy doesn't have the jam, yet here the 358 is smiled upon
9.3x57 is the cheaper sleeper, CRF and iron sights.....perfect close action thumper
it seems everyone gets their happy on with a 9.3x57 converted to x64, as though the little guy doesn't have the jam, yet here the 358 is smiled upon
9.3x57 is the cheaper sleeper, CRF and iron sights.....perfect close action thumper
Except the lever guns are ambidextrous for those of us who are in their right mind…….
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
The two redheaded step children of bore sizes are .257 and .358. There is hope that new projectile developed for the 25 creedmore will see a increase of interest in .257. Not sure how the .358 makes a return.
There are very few rifles sold above 30 cal. Most would probably be .338. The 35 rem hangs on in levers, but most other 35 cals seem to be semi custom one offs. I doubt you would find a top 100 selling die set in a 35 cal. Even on our EE, it's rare to see brass, dies, or projectile.
There are very few rifles sold above 30 cal. Most would probably be .338. The 35 rem hangs on in levers, but most other 35 cals seem to be semi custom one offs. I doubt you would find a top 100 selling die set in a 35 cal. Even on our EE, it's rare to see brass, dies, or projectile.
That's what has me thinking about the 9,3x57mm. 8mm mauser brass or any 30-06 brass , .366 bullets are available easily. Common Powder are effective in that caliber. Dies are available. I dont know how much you can push the power and still be safe in those rifle but it seems to be a good brush gun for big game maybe up to 200 yards or so...
9.3 x 57 is doable; dies are hard to find and there is no new brass that I have seen. Need to make brass out of 8 x 57 brass or even 7 x 57. 9.3 x 62 has brass available, dies are easy to obtain. Also, you can load a 9.3 x 62 down to 9.3 x 57 performance; but you can't load 9.3 x 57 up to 62 performance.
Yes you can! Try Leverevolution powder with 285 gr. Bullets in 9.3x57. Easily 2250 fps. That is only 100 fps slower than 9.3x62 hand loads and just as good as some factory ammo.
You can make it out of 30-06 easily as well. So brass is simple to acquire. It's a good cartridge. The 9x57 would be closer to the 358 ballistically, but either one would work equally as well on game. I sold my last 358, a BLR a couple years ago, just wasn't using it anymore. But I like the cartridge. - dan
I had 3 but I’m down to 1. Gone are the Ruger No1 and Ruger M77 tang safety. I’m left with a pre 81 Browning BLR, it just seemed to be a more appropriate choice for the type of hunting situation that makes you want to carry a 358. All have been equally accurate with any 200gr bullet, jacketed and cast. For me, it’s the perfect black bear cartridge.
I have two 9.3x57 Husqvarna rifles, 1 based on thev96 Mauser and one in an FN98 action. Bullets are commonly available but factory brass can be harder to find. I have some Norma factory 9.3x57 brass but made most of it from 8x57 brass. I use a lot of cast bullets and the 270gr Speer.
9.3x57 is a good cartridge that's very similar to 358 win.
Branding exercise, 9mm Blackout. Load it up with some 400gr subsonic loads and the Americans would eat it up. And then we get new monster .358 bullets to load into Norma Mags and STAs.
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Not satire. Go find ammo, brass, or dies for those. You also have to re read my original post. I was talking about 35 cal, not 338/8.6. Even so, again, very few rifles sold above 30 vs 30 and lower.
I own a 338wm and a 340wea, the Weatherby is difficult to find brass, not 350 mag.difficult, but difficult. There's the 338-06, but can't think of aany other commercial successful caliber in 338.
I meant 25 creedmoor, but apparently it does exist. I did read your post thanks, I was just addressing the most outlandish part of it.
The 8.6 blackout is just essentially what Mikeyb described but with a 338 bore so I figured it might be of interest.
Unfortunately the monster bullets are all designed for very low velocities but they seem to be solids exclusively so who knows what would happen if you could stabilize them in a magnum
The 8.6 blackout is just essentially what Mikeyb described but with a 338 bore so I figured it might be of interest.
Unfortunately the monster bullets are all designed for very low velocities but they seem to be solids exclusively so who knows what would happen if you could stabilize them in a magnum
Yup ! loaded up 30-06 has a lot more recoil then a 358 Win . RJ
That would very much depend on the rifle and stock combo. I doubt that in similar rifles with similar weights, stocks and loads (bullet weights) you'd see much difference.
But then on the other hand, maybe the left coasters are more sensitive to recoil.
