The Shotgun In Modern Combat - Drone Defense

And when I went looking for the episode I was thinking of above here, YT produced this one about the AA 12, which seems to fit the ticket i thought might be punched. So many miracle weapons on that show, not all of them crazy, never know what happened to most of them.

Use to watch Futureweapons all the time, thought that was an awesome shotgun. They used the AA-12 in a couple of the Expendables movies
 
THIS IS WHY FRANCE CHOSE THE BENELLI SUPERNOVA AS ITS NEW SHOTGUN

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A few months ago, Beretta, which owns Benelli, announced that the next service shotgun for the French military would be the Benelli SuperNova.

France has an interesting history of small arms, and admittedly shotguns aren’t a large portion of their arsenal. Seeing a European military force adopt a new shotgun draws attention, especially because it’s a pump-action shotgun. France currently uses small numbers of the Benelli M3 shotgun for its special operation troops, but that weapon is convertible from semi-auto to pump-action.

Christophe Bannier, the director of military and law enforcement sales for Humbert CTTS (a Beretta-owned French company), said of the deal,
The Benelli Supernova Tactical, after very severe evaluation tests from which it emerged as the winner, becomes the standard shotgun of the entire French armed forces in three different versions, 18.5″ Tactical, 14″ Tactical, and 28″ Anti-drone. The contract also includes the supply of accessories, tactical VIS/IR flashlights, shotshell holders, multipoint tactical slings, etc.”

WHY THE SUPERNOVA​

In terms of pump-action shotguns, the SuperNova is a fairly impressive weapon.

It comes in a variety of configurations, the 18-inch barrel, 14-inch barrel, and the most interesting to me, the 28-inch anti-drone model. Anti-drone shotgun munitions tend to work well, and while fancy electronic options exist to fry drones, the Benelli SuperNova is one that can be easily taken on patrol and doesn’t rely on a battery as electronic munition does.

The use of off-the-shelf drones has risen. We’ve seen everyone from ISIS to the Ukrainian military using simple DJI drones for recon and attacks. Its ant-drone capabilities likely helped the SuperNova get the nod from the French military.

The SuperNova has a 3.5-inch chamber, and most tactical shotguns tap out at three-inch chambers. This allows the SuperNova to use 3.5-inch shells, which could pack a larger net to take drones down. If the anti-drone model is just using shot loads, then the 3.5-inch chambering allows for more buckshot pellets per load to increase the chance of hitting a flying, moving target.

The SuperNova uses a pump-action making it easy to cycle the drone-designed net shells. These shells would not cycle in a semi-auto gun.

The long barrel will help increase the velocity of the net-style targets and increases sight radius while also making the gun easier to swing at moving targets.

If you look at the guns used by professional trap and skeet shooters and upland bird hunters, you’ll see 28-inch barrels. And a drone is basically an unfriendly bird.

INSIDE THE BENELLI SUPERNOVA​

Benelli made their name producing high-quality semi-automatic shotguns for sporting, tactical, and competitive fields. The SuperNova is an improvement on the Nova series; both are well-proven and respected pump-action shotguns.
Interestingly enough, the SuperNova features a lot of polymers, including a polymer but steel-reinforced receiver. The SuperNova comes with a rotating bolt that helps ensure consistent extraction, even in nonpermissive environments.

The pump design is unique in two ways. First, it’s fairly long and provides a ton of space for the shooter to grip and rip.
Second, beneath the pump sits a button called a magazine cutoff. If the user presses it as they cycle the pump, a round will not feed from the magazine into the chamber. This allows the shooter to directly load a round into the chamber, making it easy to swap buckshot to slugs, breaching rounds, or those aforementioned drone rounds.

A GREAT MODERN SHOTGUN​

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The Benelli SuperNova (Photo by Picanox via Wikimedia Commons)
Shooters praise the shotgun’s smooth action, and I can’t help but agree: The SuperNova might be my favorite, modern, pump-action shotgun. Its action is remarkably smooth and allows for quick and easy follow-up shots. The sights are fantastic, and the gun is optics-ready as well.

Most pump shotguns are derived from 1960s designs, and while they can be great guns, the Benelli SuperNova embraces a modern design and a number of modern features.

The SuperNova represents a very modern, lightweight, and very capable weapon that can tackle a variety of tasks. It can be a breaching gun, combat shotgun, anti-drone tool, or even riot-control weapon. The French made a great choice with the Benelli SuperNova.

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If you look at the guns used by professional trap and skeet shooters and upland bird hunters, you’ll see 28-inch barrels. And a drone is basically an unfriendly bird.
This fact amuses me. While the 12ga shotgun is back for military use, it is not the shorty "tactical" models that will be used, but the long barrelled hunting models with choked barrels. :) Hell, at this point in Ukraine, an over-under trap gun would be an excellent choice.
 
Benelli introduces A.I Drone guardian last born of iconic M4 family as solution against UAV during battle.
Think a vent rib barrel would have been a better choice than sights for shooting flying objects. Trap shooters, heck even 3 gun shooters largely use vent rib barrels.
 
Think a vent rib barrel would have been a better choice than sights for shooting flying objects. Trap shooters, heck even 3 gun shooters largely use vent rib barrels.

Agreed, both ghost rings and small dot sights are downright awkward for wingshooting IMO.

More carbine oriented shooters may not find that to be the case however.
 
Agreed, both ghost rings and small dot sights are downright awkward for wingshooting IMO.

More carbine oriented shooters may not find that to be the case however.
Agreed. I've tried using ghost ring and red dot SGs on clays and it doesn't work for me.

So God forbid if I need to ever shoot down drones I'm going to go with my 28" Beretta A300 with a full choke and the mag tube plug pulled......
 
As luck would have it, someone was flying a quadcopter type drone around my neighborhood today.

Hopefully they were just having fun and not using it to case properties for later theft.

What drew my attention to it was the motor noise, which was noticable even above the considerable background noise of my immediate neighbourhood.

I might not have noticed it otherwise since it mostly stayed at least 100 feet in the air and presented a small profile.
 
As luck would have it, someone was flying a quadcopter type drone around my neighborhood today.

Hopefully they were just having fun and not using it to case properties for later theft.

What drew my attention to it was the motor noise, which was noticable even above the considerable background noise of my immediate neighbourhood.

I might not have noticed it otherwise since it mostly stayed at least 100 feet in the air and presented a small profile.
I bought a DJI Mini 3 drone so I could understand drones, how they work, how they fly, their capabilities etc. Drones are the future of conflict and those without, will be easy prey for those with.

A small drone like the DJI Mini can operate as high as 1500' and has a range of up to 5000m.

I specifically tested noise at altitude and can report that a DJI Mini is basically inaudible at about 700'. In an extremely quiet area, and where a person is actually listening for a drone, it can just be audible above 600' but when a person isn't listening for the drone or there is even any moderate background noise, the drone would not be audible at 500' elevation.

The DJI Mini is pretty quiet. Larger drones and FPV drones can be louder.
 
I bought a DJI Mini 3 drone so I could understand drones, how they work, how they fly, their capabilities etc. Drones are the future of conflict and those without, will be easy prey for those with.

A small drone like the DJI Mini can operate as high as 1500' and has a range of up to 5000m.

I specifically tested noise at altitude and can report that a DJI Mini is basically inaudible at about 700'. In an extremely quiet area, and where a person is actually listening for a drone, it can just be audible above 600' but when a person isn't listening for the drone or there is even any moderate background noise, the drone would not be audible at 500' elevation.

The DJI Mini is pretty quiet. Larger drones and FPV drones can be louder.

How much can you see at the heights where its inaudible?
 
I was flying my Mavic Platinum at a minesite in tge Philippines.

It was maybe 300m above me when my phone attached to the controller froze.

I could not see or hear the drone and did not know where it was. I assumed that since I had released the controller joysticks that it was hovering.

In a panic I got one of my tech savy young geos to help me thinking we'd take a truck and drive in the direction of the drone. He pointed out that tge controller was still in contact with the drone and that if I hit the RTH it would come back to the takeoff location where we were.

We did just that and half a minute later we spotted it flying back to us but we still couldn't hear it.

They are stealthy above a couple of hundred meters of altitude.
 
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