The Shotgun In Modern Combat - Drone Defense

Carl estimates that a lot of the drops you see (based on how long it takes for the munition to hit the ground) is only about 50 yards.

Check out the tungsten turkey shot they use...

 
Brutus said:
Concerning Ukraine. I am rather surprised Thale or Boeing or Raytheon has yet to develop and RPG rocket with a proximity fuze for exactly this problem. And with a timed self destruct in case of a clear miss.
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You've reminded me of the old Future Weapons show hosted by 'Mac,' at least one episode of which featured a 12 gauge 00 Buck firing machine gun, specifically a rail gun I think. Might actually be a market for such a thing now, if they can shrink it down a bit to make it squad portable.
 
And when I went looking for the episode I was thinking of above here, YT produced this one about the AA 12, which seems to fit the ticket i thought might be punched. So many miracle weapons on that show, not all of them crazy, never know what happened to most of them.

 
as i was reading this i thought you could engineer a shotgun munition specifically for drones. magnetic shot? or something hot (phosphorus?) to melt the plastic?
 
BB lead shot in a 10 gauge but you would think they could build some specially designed 40mm grenade launcher loads for drones
 
Found the one shared above, I couldn’t see the video due to the giant nsfw popup though. Anyway that buckshot looked pretty ####in effective to me!
[video=youtube_share;p6r1mKkbWyY]https://youtu.be/p6r1mKkbWyY?feature=shared[/video]
 
something that could send a magnetic cloud out about 100 meters would mess with their nav, comms, gyro, and stick to stuff that would throw them off-balance.
 
the radium king said:
something that could send a magnetic cloud out about 100 meters would mess with their nav, comms, gyro, and stick to stuff that would throw them off-balance.
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And what exactly would do that? I'm sure we could all come up with weird sci-fi contraptions. Even an extremely powerful magnet won't affect RF signals.
 
well, using a shotgun in a conventional manner requires (a) that you hit the target, and (b) that this happens with enough force to break the target. limited by range, accuracy, etc.

magnetic bits of metal would just require proximity. what would it do? well, presume these things are using flux compasses which would be impacted. ditto the magnetometers that they use for stabilization. also the physical impact of having lifting surfaces compromised.

not science fiction, just science.
 
the radium king said:
well, using a shotgun in a conventional manner requires (a) that you hit the target, and (b) that this happens with enough force to break the target. limited by range, accuracy, etc.

magnetic bits of metal would just require proximity. what would it do? well, presume these things are using flux compasses which would be impacted. ditto the magnetometers that they use for stabilization. also the physical impact of having lifting surfaces compromised.

not science fiction, just science.
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I said it wouldn't affect RF signals, and it won't. I'm still wondering why this silliness would be better than just plain old kinetic energy? The routes actually being taken make sense at least.
 
i think that weapons have to evolve in warfare. and that munitions have to adapt to what they are being used against. it trying to hit a target at 100 m going 100kmph with little metal balls isn't working then try something else.

i think when the drone operator is trying to remotely fly his weapon into a 1' target at 100+ kmph then even a small impact on his controls, data stream, vehicle stability, etc., might be effective.

i get it that your solution is to field an army of professional-level skeet shooters armed with 500-year old technology against 5-year old technology. good luck with that.
 
the radium king said:
i think that weapons have to evolve in warfare. and that munitions have to adapt to what they are being used against. it trying to hit a target at 100 m going 100kmph with little metal balls isn't working then try something else.

i think when the drone operator is trying to remotely fly his weapon into a 1' target at 100+ kmph then even a small impact on his controls, data stream, vehicle stability, etc., might be effective.

i get it that your solution is to field an army of professional-level skeet shooters armed with 500-year old technology against 5-year old technology. good luck with that.
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The Chinese are working on that, fear not. Little metal balls are going to be the least of our worries on a go forward. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-infectious-disease-scientist-fired-from-winnipeg-laboratory-surfaces/
 
Painkillers said:
The Chinese are working on that, fear not. Little metal balls are going to be the least of our worries on a go forward. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-infectious-disease-scientist-fired-from-winnipeg-laboratory-surfaces/
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Hell, we all are in the most destructive time to knock down the global population since the so-called "Great Flood" of ages past. The weaponizing of the weather, combined with total AI control over the financial systems is gonna put most of us in the dirt very soon. Sucks to be on an overcrowded world full of hate. :(

[video=youtube_share;Xo9GJWoopSc]https://youtu.be/Xo9GJWoopSc[/video]
 
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