Sterling Arms International R18 Mk3 Part 1 Review - Specifications and Initial Impressions
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I always liked the Haga defense adapter for the Zhukov, was a good fit on the mk2, wonder how it would look on the mk3
Thinking this new stock from HD would be good on the mk3 as well
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Now THAT looks good!
Any chance of manufacturing them with the ADKAS SAM bar type retractable stock?
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2024/03/05/turkish-sig-mcx-akdas-sam-rifle/
beauty of the 1913 rail for stock attachment, looks like that stock might directly bolt up to the mk3 (and a variety of others)Any chance of manufacturing them with the ADKAS SAM bar type retractable stock?
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2024/03/05/turkish-sig-mcx-akdas-sam-rifle/
The problem with the AKDAS Retractable Stock is that those Bars directly interfere with the Left Side Charging Handle when the stock is retracted. looking directly at the R18 Mk3 Pre-Production Test Rifle that I currently have on loan, I can see no place where the Bars can be placed such that they won't interfere with the Ejection Port, or the Right and Left Side Bolt Catches/Releases, or the Change Lever and Magazine Rlease Button. There is simply no place for those Bars on the new Mk3 rifle. Period. Think folding Buttstock instead. Something like the Lage seen here on my new M10X, or a tube-based solution with an adjustable Length of Pull:
For sporting rifle it's not critical, however I would like to see my sporting rifle following the best military practices, which are in turn just common sense practices. HKs did not see battle testing on the significant scale, and I don't know what HK designers were thinking when they decided to use extra tool. However, probably every single design hardened by war, created at war or right after post war either had tool-less take-down or was heavily criticized by lack of it.
Essentially we all provide our feedback here and then vote with our $$$. It's up to manufacturer to listen or not. So far I am glad manufacturer is listening.
I don't think it's correct to compare scrubbing of carbon off AR bolt with cleaning of gas system.
I personally am loving the feedback from the CGN crowd.
I think critical opinions are super important right now to make the tweaks that will make this rifle the best possible out of the gate. Especially since most suggestions have been minor changes for huge improvements.
Thank you guys!
JR
I'm urged to bring up the JR antics of the past, and my distaste about that, but here we have a superb product. Credit where it is due. The review is equally well done and the ambi suggestions well stated. The clip on stock is confusing. It might be the trend, but I prefer side folding. They are available but adds cost to the user.
There is nothing to clean in these short stroke push rod system without a turnable regulator - like people just wipe the outside of the piston cup and push rod. There is no need to scrap or remove every bit of carbon off the piston after every hundred rounds. There is no turnable regulator in the 18/180 so there is no worry if it is not reasonably clean it becomes impossible to pry it off later on.
Sure, rile will work until some point if neglected. I like to take care about my firearms, I don't go crazy with scrubbing, but I clean residues and lubricate with CLP. I rely on my experience, my understanding on how mechanical things work and on manuals. Here's 180 manual.
Just too add some more critique,
Although that adjustable and QD stock mount is cool, I'd trade it for a folding charging handle or tool less handguard removal.
Maybe Bartok can chime in on the charging handle, it looks even more stabby than the mk2 version in the pictures
Although that adjustable and QD stock mount is cool, I'd trade it for a folding charging handle or tool less handguard removal.
Maybe Bartok can chime in on the charging handle, it looks even more stabby than the mk2 version in the pictures
I'm also in favor of tool-less handguard screw. It's better to have it when you don't need it than not having it when you do.
I also consider folding charging handle is a must for me since even MCR with stubby charging handle hurts my back when stowed on my back with a sling. I'll buy aftermarket upgrade as soon as it comes out.
I also consider folding charging handle is a must for me since even MCR with stubby charging handle hurts my back when stowed on my back with a sling. I'll buy aftermarket upgrade as soon as it comes out.
mmcintyre1220
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I have yet to see a quality firearm come from Turkey. I will be holding off for a while on these due to this. I don't care what type of facility they are produced in. I don't think the turks have the capability of properly running and maintaining these CNC machines. I hope this company proves me wrong as it's a well priced and sweet looking rifle.
Pretty uninformed take. You’ve never heard of Canik, MKE or TISAS? Yes, there are some terrible Turkish firearms.. but a lot of major brands use the Turkish manufacturing to some degree. You wouldn’t even know.
Honestly, the Turkish have a better track record than Canadians when it comes to manufacturing firearms.
mmcintyre1220
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I had a canik tp9 sfx. It was an utter pos. Multiple breakages, next to no parts availability. Sold it at a loss and moved on. Never heard of MKE and have heard mixed reviews about tisas. Regardless, look at the bs Turkey has been pumping into the market. As far as I am concerned, every single Turkish shotgun is is junk. They make norinco look top tier.
With the current Turkish examples in the county, are you surprised people have a bad outlook towards them?
