- Location
- Nova Scotia
JB weld is oil resistant. Just DONT skimp on the release agent. Packing tape and coat of oil made a nice smooth finish.
Looking for precision 10/22 build advice
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I’ll definitely have to look into bedding it! I tore er down and cleaned it tonight, the trigger group was absolutely filthy. I cleaned all the oil off the receiver as well. The previous owner doesn’t know much about it other than it being kidd. Is there an easy way to tell? Gonna go out tomorrow and site er in to see where we’re at.
I torqued er to 25 this evening, it seems like it’s worth playing around with it a bit
When you bed an action do you make sure the stock is only contacting the action or let it touch the first 2 inches of the barrel? I’d imagine a completely free floated barrel would be better for accuracy but most of the write ups and videos I’ve seen they also bed the first couple inches of the barrel.
Bedding is as much art as science. The goal is for the barreled action to be fully supported and firm fit within the inletting. I do a 2 stage bedding which doubles to time for install... but you end up with the right fit and easy removal. The barreled action should have little wiggle in the inletting without an action bolt.
When done properly, action torque should have little affect on your accuracy. All you will need is for the bolt be tight enough so it doesn't loosen under useage. If a rimfire (any rifle really) is reacting to action bolt torque, something is bending and that is not good for long term success.
YMMV
Jerry
When done properly, action torque should have little affect on your accuracy. All you will need is for the bolt be tight enough so it doesn't loosen under useage. If a rimfire (any rifle really) is reacting to action bolt torque, something is bending and that is not good for long term success.
YMMV
Jerry
If you ever get a chance to take some pictures of your process I’d love to see how a pro does it! I may give er a shot this week
What do y’all recommend for a good higher magnification optic? I’m not happy with the 4-16x on this rifle and am looking for an upgrade. I’m also probably going to want a 30 moa mount where my receiver has a 0 moa rail. Any advice is appreciated!
Most likely prs and paper punching, I’m wanting to try whatever shooting sports I can here locally in NS. I’m definitely going to want to be under $1000. I’m also going to need a set of canted rings or a canted mount and a bipod to be all set up. I’m using a vortex diamondback tactical 4-16x44 ffp as of right now but I’m not content with the clarity in higher magnification.
Thunderhog
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- East Kootneys
Not a bad entry level hunting scope, it’s seen a few downed white tails but definitely not ideal for this set up.That’s because it’s a Vortex.
Absolute junk!….. LOL
Remember “take everything with a grain of salt” there are people that hate just to be in a club! Like most things in life , most times you get what you pay for. Many new optics companies out there now thanks to Vortex, that produce really great stuff for a budget price. Give Robbie at Shooters Warehouse or Jerry @ Mystic Precision a shout. Both great to deal with and very knowledgeable. There are lots of great used optic on the EE as well. You’ll want FFP and a sloped rail or the Burris rings with the inserts. Mount so the objective bell is fairly close to your barrel so you can get good cheek weld without looking like a giraffe operating a gun. Have fun and enjoy the trip!!
Thunderhog
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- East Kootneys
I do not like Vortex because they are Chinese made garbage. They are pushed by several dealers because the mark up on these crap scopes is huge. One has to spend Leupold prices to get a Vortex scope that has Philippines or Japanese quality glass.
As a retired dealer, I probably have more experience than most hunters and shooters. Over 45 years actually. So I'm not a hate club as you so eloquently state. Just because you are a Vortex lover, doesn't make them great.
Nikon, Leupold, Crimson Trace, Bausch & Lomb, and even some Bushnell scopes are a better choice than a Vortex. Make no mistake, Vortex does well because it is pushed by the local gun store in your area due to availability and big mark up. Our local gun store here in Cranbrook has been pushing Vortex for over 30 years. They had the monopoly on the hunting and shooting industry for years, there was no competition. Then a new sheriff moved to town and introduced Leupold, and Crimson Trace scopes. And Nikon when it was available. These three brands are far superior to a Vortex. Especially for the amount of money that is spent when comparing the cost of similar models.
So yes, you are correct, take everything with a grain of salt. But Vortex are overpriced scopes with a great warranty, that's it......
One needs to do a lot of research to ensure they get the right scope for their application and their particular budget.
But what do I know, apparently I belong to the Vortex hate club!.......
LOLThe scope I have the most of and use for PRS as well as ELR shooting is the Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 6-24X56. The glass punches way above the price point and the mechanicals have stood up to my rimfire PRS needs and the needs of many shooters across Canada. The features and layout are very PRS friendly.
For your budget, this is really hard to beat.
And I am shooting out to 2600yds with this scope and a 308win....
Enjoy
Jerry
First...No glass comes from the Phillipines, they are just assembled thereI do not like Vortex because they are Chinese made garbage. They are pushed by several dealers because the mark up on these crap scopes is huge. One has to spend Leupold prices to get a Vortex scope that has Philippines or Japanese quality glass.
As a retired dealer, I probably have more experience than most hunters and shooters. Over 45 years actually. So I'm not a hate club as you so eloquently state. Just because you are a Vortex lover, doesn't make them great.
Nikon, Leupold, Crimson Trace, Bausch & Lomb, and even some Bushnell scopes are a better choice than a Vortex. Make no mistake, Vortex does well because it is pushed by the local gun store in your area due to availability and big mark up. Our local gun store here in Cranbrook has been pushing Vortex for over 30 years. They had the monopoly on the hunting and shooting industry for years, there was no competition. Then a new sheriff moved to town and introduced Leupold, and Crimson Trace scopes. And Nikon when it was available. These three brands are far superior to a Vortex. Especially for the amount of money that is spent when comparing the cost of similar models.
So yes, you are correct, take everything with a grain of salt. But Vortex are overpriced scopes with a great warranty, that's it......
One needs to do a lot of research to ensure they get the right scope for their application and their particular budget.
But what do I know, apparently I belong to the Vortex hate club!.......
Second...I have over 55 years with firearms and over 40 shooting competitively. Who cares! I never stated your a hate club.Just because you dont like them doesnt make them bad the same as you saying Im a Vortex lover doesnt make them good.
Third...Im pretty sure there were many optic companies making scopes before Vortex. So the 30 year monopoly as you put it is absolute Bullsxxt. Comparing scopes like Nikon and B&L is not really relevant since theyve been unavailable for quite a while.
Fourth...Id be willing to bet youve never actually owned a vortex optic but have sour grapes because of your business experience SHERIFF
Fifth...Says you!
Sixth...The first two scopes on your list are the only scopes Ive owned that failed. Two Nikon Monarchs that lost seal and fogged. One Leupold VX11that had the windage stuck rite out of the box. Both were repaired/replaced but still a fail.
I still own one Vortex Razor LHT, 2 Razor red dots and a 10x50 pair of Razor HD binos. All my remaining optics are now European.
I even put some smiley yellow fellas in there LOL
Thunderhog
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- East Kootneys
Any scope manufactured by any brand name can fail......First...No glass comes from the Phillipines, they are just assembled there
Second...I have over 55 years with firearms and over 40 shooting competitively. Who cares! I never stated your a hate club.Just because you dont like them doesnt make them bad the same as you saying Im a Vortex lover doesnt make them good.
Third...Im pretty sure there were many optic companies making scopes before Vortex. So the 30 year monopoly as you put it is absolute Bullsxxt. Comparing scopes like Nikon and B&L is not really relevant since theyve been unavailable for quite a while.
Fourth...Id be willing to bet youve never actually owned a vortex optic but have sour grapes because of your business experience SHERIFF
Fifth...Says you!
Sixth...The first two scopes on your list are the only scopes Ive owned that failed. Two Nikon Monarchs that lost seal and fogged. One Leupold VX11that had the windage stuck rite out of the box. Both were repaired/replaced but still a fail.
I still own one Vortex Razor LHT, 2 Razor red dots and a 10x50 pair of Razor HD binos. All my remaining optics are now European.
I even put some smiley yellow fellas in there LOL
And no, when a local gun store is the only game in town, and the internet wasn't invented yet, then the people buy what ever is sold, promoted or pushed by that dealer. So again, you are wrong.
You are right about one thing, I have never owned a Vortex because they are over-priced for what you get. I never liked their models, design, price, or the fact they were built in China. And this was before China tried to kill all of us with the Wo-Han Flu (Covid 19).
I'm glad you like Vortex, and it's unfortunate your Leupold model failed you, Vortex is still junk. Leupold is quality glass.
Now being a Leupold dealer has made me a Leupold snob, no doubt, but Vortex will never be what Leupold will be when comparing scopes of similar price tags.
You do you and I'll do me. I don't care if you love Vortex scopes, I don't, end of story......
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Like I said! Vortex haters club without ever owning one! At least you’re honest.Any scope manufactured by any brand name can fail......
And no, when a local gun store is the only game in town, and the internet wasn't invented yet, then the people buy what ever is sold, promoted or pushed by that dealer. So again, you are wrong.
You are right about one thing, I have never owned a Vortex because they are over-priced for what you get. I never liked their models, design, price, or the fact they were built in China. And this was before China tried to kill all of us with the Wo-Han Flu (Covid 19).
I'm glad you like Vortex, and it's unfortunate your Leupold model failed you, Vortex is still junk. Leupold is quality glass.
Now being a Leupold dealer has made me a Leupold snob, no doubt, but Vortex will never be what Leupold will be when comparing scopes of similar price tags.
You do you and I'll do me. I don't care if you love Vortex scopes, I don't, end of story......
I don’t care you love Leupold optics. I don’t have that kind of admiration for inanimate objects. I don’t make derogatory comments about things that I have no experience with. And now, the rest of the story lol. Have a great day Thunderhog
