Norinco JW-15A Compact Hiker New Arrival

[.22LRGUY]

One thing I dont get is why is the shorter barrel one $20 more?

same stock, same action, same sights....just shorter.

AFAIK I can tell too, the JW and NR take the same action.

It's more than $20 better for starters..

The muzzle end of the barrel has no finish on it=raw metal. Leads me to believe Norinco (or whoever ordered to this spec) took these barrelled actions from a run of normal-lengthed barrels and then put more work into them. If I'm right, they'd also have to re-do the business end to facilitate the sights. Can-down is probably right too, likely a smaller run/niche thing. Possibly only for the Canadian market?

 

[.22LRGUY]

It's more than $20 better for starters..

The muzzle end of the barrel has no finish on it=raw metal. Leads me to believe Norinco (or whoever ordered to this spec) took these barrelled actions from a run of normal-lengthed barrels and then put more work into them. If I'm right, they'd also have to re-do the business end to facilitate the sights. Can-down is probably right too, likely a smaller run/niche thing. Possibly only for the Canadian market?

Looking at one of the current/long version being offered....that wouldn't hold true, but if memory serves...when I had one of the Norinco K98 22s., the same mags worked in both guns. (Hiker and the K98)

I don't think I've seen a Norinco 22LR mag that looks like that straight one. While we're talking Norinco mags, the one that came with my Scorpio was really nicely made, and I picked up a few extras that were the same.

 

[g-mac]

Just ordered one
Get them while they last.

 

[FatCatsDad]

Why does Tenda want place of birth before checking out ?

This info in not needed to verify a PAL .

 

[*lawrence]

FYI as far as I know in regards to the front sight on the 13" and the regular barrel is that Norinco simply used the same front sight but did not change the blade height. I saw this ina youtube review and don't know if it's 100% as I only shoot mine with a scope.

 

[riversrest]

Looking at one of the current/long version being offered....that wouldn't hold true, but if memory serves...when I had one of the Norinco K98 22s., the same mags worked in both guns. (Hiker and the K98)

I don't think I've seen a Norinco 22LR mag that looks like that straight one. While we're talking Norinco mags, the one that came with my Scorpio was really nicely made, and I picked up a few extras that were the same.

That mag in the full length version almost looks like a mag for the NS 522 but longer. (5 round vs 9 round capacity)

Would be interesting to know if it fits...

 

[iceman106]

I have a few low peep sights around I will give it a go when I get a chance and report back....

Pretty please

 

[99Solutions]

I had the 13" Scorpio but it was a really uncomfortable stock to hold

That’s interesting. I found the Scorpio super comfortable and extremely accurate. I just didn’t like that it had a plastic stock.

 

[99Solutions]

I have both Scorpio and the 13" is an odd little rifle.

I much prefer the JW15A, it's way more fun to shoot.

What makes the JW-15 more fun?

 

[99Solutions]

Perfect, compact .22LR with iron sight, just what I was looking for. Would the front sight work with Tech Sight's CZ452 rear sight? Don't know if they have exact same height as CZ452.

I’m not positive if the Skinner rear sight for the CZ works on this, but I would definitely check it out. Andy is great to deal with, and I’m sure he’d give you the dimensions to measure and check.

 

[FatCatsDad]

What makes the JW-15 more fun?

JW feels like a real rifle when operating it.

 

[Hitzy]

What makes the JW-15 more fun?

It's easier to handle, pretty big stock on the 322's, I didn't like the stock even with the full length barrel, others don't mind it, just kind of bulky.
They are both rear locking dual lug actions, 322's are a heavier action, better trigger, better fit/finish, I have a couple of the older 522's that CanAm was selling cheap but they are heavy barrel units.
For small and light, the BRNO clones are nice, accurate, easy to work on. 322's should come with heavy barrels, that would be interesting.

 

[99Solutions]

I have used a Scorpio 13” and a Brno model 1 (same action as this little Norinco). I see what you mean.
The Brno style action (as on these Norincos) is the most solid 22LR action I’ve handled, but the high bolt life is a considerable and some people don’t like the safety.

I like the Scorpio because the short one has a medium-heavy barrel, the threaded muzzle enables a linear compensator, the it is the 2nd most solid 22lr action I’ve handled, it has dual extractors (like the JW-15), and it’s incredibly accurate.

I wish the Chinese manufacturers would format their rifles to take common scope rails. It would be great to have wood stocks even if it isn’t walnut. The JW-15 would be better threaded (just my opinion), with the safety toggle adjusted for smoother operation, and a lower bolt lift.

I think the more solid feel is partly due to the full bolt lift on the Brno/Norinco JW-15 bolt style, and the slight feel of the Scorpio bolt is probably due to the fact that the bolt cocks half on close, half on opening. It makes for a low bolt lift but it definitely feels less “Mauser-like”.

I like both of these - Thanks to you guys for explaining your impressions of both. You’re making me think about ordering a JW-15.

 

[Jahnj0584]

All these qualms about stocks....and no ones getting out their chisels.

I just ordered a JW15A tonight and it will encounter the same fate next month.
Can anyone confirm its 100% identical to a CZ so I could sell stocks for the 457 off the same files?

 

[Hitzy]

I have used a Scorpio 13” and a Brno model 1 (same action as this little Norinco). I see what you mean.
The Brno style action (as on these Norincos) is the most solid 22LR action I’ve handled, but the high bolt life is a considerable and some people don’t like the safety.

I like the Scorpio because the short one has a medium-heavy barrel, the threaded muzzle enables a linear compensator, the it is the 2nd most solid 22lr action I’ve handled, it has dual extractors (like the JW-15), and it’s incredibly accurate.

I wish the Chinese manufacturers would format their rifles to take common scope rails. It would be great to have wood stocks even if it isn’t walnut. The JW-15 would be better threaded (just my opinion), with the safety toggle adjusted for smoother operation, and a lower bolt lift.

I think the more solid feel is partly due to the full bolt lift on the Brno/Norinco JW-15 bolt style, and the slight feel of the Scorpio bolt is probably due to the fact that the bolt cocks half on close, half on opening. It makes for a low bolt lift but it definitely feels less “Mauser-like”.

I like both of these - Thanks to you guys for explaining your impressions of both. You’re making me think about ordering a JW-15.

The safety can be smoothed out on the 15's, the whole bolt is pretty rough and would always benefit from some smoothing and dehorning.
Everyone I had through here, the bolt looks like it had a lot of filing and hand fitting, typical of most Nork stuff.
I picked up a few of the NOS JW20's when Tenda had them last, those are the Browning SA22 clones, same deal, strip the bolt down and smooth everything out and they run nice.

 

[riversrest]

The Scorpio shorty has no iron sights. The JW-15 shorty has.

They may have done that on purpose because of the different bolt lift design, idk ?

For some the iron sights might be a buying point if they choose not to use high mounted optics. Ymmv...

 

[Dorian Gray]

Anyone get theirs yet? Mine showed up in the mail today. Just took it out of the box. It's coaaaaated in oil. Like they dipped the ####ing thing in it. My next few hours are going to be spent giving this thing one hell of a scrub down.

 

[Jahnj0584]

Ordered Mar 11, alleged shipped but still no tracking update on the UPS end. They didnt even run my PAL until sunday night.

 

[45CAT]

Tenda are super slow at getting orders out. Almost 3 weeks for my ammo to get to Northern Ontario and it wasn’t because of the courier

 

[Neo]

Anyone get theirs yet? Mine showed up in the mail today. Just took it out of the box. It's coaaaaated in oil. Like they dipped the ####ing thing in it. My next few hours are going to be spent giving this thing one hell of a scrub down.

I bought one many years ago, but it's nice to see they still ship them the same way as they did back then

As others have already pointed out, the trigger is pretty rough, and the action is far from smooth. But mine shoots ridiculously well with a wide range of ammo. That said, I didn't buy it as a target rifle -- it lives on the back of my quad. I've long since lost count of the number of grouse it's put in the pot -- but it keeps our 4-man moose camp in chicken tenders every year until we get a moose or two on the meat pole.

It's short and handy, stores just about anywhere, and knocks the heads off bird very reliably out to 50 yards or so. I seldom head into the fall woods without it.