Show Us Your Evil Black/Green/Brown Prohib Rifles

DVX said:
To be honest, I'd pay a large sum of money to a company if they made a non restricted straight pull version of something like this. Just so I can drive liberals crazy over how "scary" it looks.
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Poly would make a song and dance over something like that and call it a "Weapon Of War" or some other illogical scary label. Then her Liberal lackeys would ban it.

And any Americans (more so those in sensible states with actual real freedom) looking on would be thinking "WTF?!"
 
Sniffer said:
Poly would make a song and dance over something like that and call it a "Weapon Of War" or some other illogical scary label. Then her Liberal lackeys would ban it.

And any Americans (more so those in sensible states with actual real freedom) looking on would be thinking "WTF?!"
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Hasn't happened to my straight pull Renegade yet, but the day is still young I guess.
 
Bartok5 said:
To be completely honest, the Fightlite Mission-Configurable Rifle (MCR), had "acceptability issues" of its own resulting in a sudden (and quite unexpected) moratorium on the export of belt-fed firearms from the USA for civilian sales. I had expressed an interest in the (then) new Fightlite MCR to my good friend John Hipwell of Wolverine Supplies, the Canadian distributor for Fightlite Industries. Not too much time passed before my friend rang me up and told me that the slow export and reduced availability of Fightlite Upper Receiver Conversion Kits to Canada was an impending US State Department moratorium on the export of belt-fed firearms intended for civilian sales. At the time, John had only 1 complete FIghtlite system in-hand in Canada, which he had intended to keep as a demonstrator. However, there would be no use for a demonstration rifle if there were to be no further export of Fightlight belt-fed Upper Receivers from the US into Canada. This left John with exactly 1 unit available for sale in all of Canada. Needless to say, I jumped on that set-up right away.

The Fightlite MCR is/was an excellent AR15 Conversion Kit for dual belt and magazine feeding. As a belt-fed unit, the MCR never faltered on the many 5-round belts that I fired through it. Not a single stoppage in hundreds of rounds effortlessly fed and fired! The MCR worked exactly as described with zero "hype" - it turned out that all of the company's performance claims were 100% truthful. It was an incredible achievement on the part of Jeffrey Herring and his company Fightlite Engineering that had taken over 15 years to perfect.

Just as you regret not buying a Fightlite in the first place, I regret selling mine in a moment of weakness well before the May 2020 ban came into force. Same old story - I needed the money for another gun project that eventually netted me a decent payday, but it spelled the end of a very interesting and uniquely-capable rifle within my collection. Such is the challenge of the collector - some things must inevitably go in order to free up funds and/or make room for new, attractive items....

Ah well, no regrets - it was a total hoot while I had it - hopefully the new owner is on a piece of land where he/she can still discharge that rifle without drawing unwanted attention!


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NOTE: For those who get excited over such things, the "belt" of "ammunition" in the gun is comprised of plastic cartridges and rubber links. Therefore, no harm/no foul has been committed against silly Canadian capacity laws by linking together more than 5 inert "rounds" at a time for display puposes....
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I must question the "only one available" bit - Wolverine offered several for sale at one point... With the all three different handguard options. We bought one from them...

Took me a few minutes, I knew I had a picture...

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Bartok5 said:
Why would you ever post a question that is answered in the very first sentence of the very first post?
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it's the norm these days. i have literally seen posts like "sale this Saturday, everything 20% off, in person only" and there will be a flood of questions like "what day is the sale?" "how much is the discount?" "can i order online?"

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RL1 said:
it's the norm these days. i have literally seen posts like "sale this Saturday, everything 20% off, in person only" and there will be a flood of questions like "what day is the sale?" "how much is the discount?" "can i order online?"

RL
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I see it in all walks of life unfortunately. If you simply read all the info many times you can seem like a genius.
 
KotKotofeich said:
I must question the "only one available" bit - Wolverine offered several for sale at one point... With the all three different handguard options. We bought one from them...

Took me a few minutes, I knew I had a picture...

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I have never claimed that Wolverine Supplies did not sell numerous Fightlite MCRs across Canada prior to the US State Department shutting down US exports of belt-fed firearms for civilian sale. I certainly never stated nor insinuated that I possess the one and only MCR in Canada. You have clearly misinterpreted the context of my post.

By the time that John Hipwell learned about the moratorium on US belt-fed firearms, he had one MCR remaining in his possession - all earlier examples (including yours) having presumably been sold. That MCR was supposed to be Hipwwell's demonstrator for future sales, however wwith no further exports in the offing, there would be no need for said demonstrator. It was AT THAT POINT that I received the only remaining Fightlite available from the distributor in Canada. There was no claim to ultimate MCR exclusivity on my part, just the fact that I received the last one to be sold by the importer/distributor. Anyhow, probably due to the fact that mine was the last to be sold, my package came with a full range of otherwise separately sold accessories such as a spare Barrel, Iron Sights, Barrel Handles, 2 Nutsack Adapters, and critical spare/consumable parts. It was pretty much the "complete package", which was nice.

I am not in the habit of making things up, nor "enhancing" my online claims. By all means, should you have any further questions or concerns regarding the veracity of my posts, please feel free to contact me via PM for clarification. That way we don't have to clog up the thread with unnecessary fact-checking and baseless "gotcha!" posts....
 
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I have never claimed that Wolverine Supplies did not sell numerous Fightlite MCRs across Canada prior to the US State Department shutting down US exports of belt-fed firearms for civilian sale. I certainly never stated nor insinuated that I possess the one and only MCR in Canada. You have clearly misinterpreted the context of my post.

By the time that John Hipwell learned about the moratorium on US belt-fed firearms, he had one MCR remaining in his possession - all earlier examples (including yours) having presumably been sold. That MCR was supposed to be Hipwwell's demonstrator for future sales, however wwith no further exports in the offing, there would be no need for said demonstrator. It was AT THAT POINT that I received the only remaining Fightlite available from the distributor in Canada. There was no claim to ultimate MCR exclusivity on my part, just the fact that I received the last one to be sold by the importer/distributor. Anyhow, probably due to the fact that mine was the last to be sold, my package came with a full range of otherwise separately sold accessories such as a spare Barrel, Iron Sights, Barrel Handles, 2 Nutsack Adapters, and critical spare/consumable parts. It was pretty much the "complete package", which was nice.

I am not in the habit of making things up, nor "enhancing" my online claims. By all means, should you have any further questions or concerns regarding the veracity of my posts, please feel free to contact me via PM for clarification. That way we don't have to clog up the thread with unnecessary fact-checking and baseless "gotcha!" posts....
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No need to be upset, treat this as 'information is being shared' and what conclusions you take away is up to you. Ours was purchased shortly after the ban and Wolverine had a number of units left that they could not sell to individuals any more.
 
KotKotofeich said:
No need to be upset, treat this as 'information is being shared' and what conclusions you take away is up to you. Ours was purchased shortly after the ban and Wolverine had a number of units left that they could not sell to individuals any more.
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My friends are not the types to tell a lie in order to make a sale. That notion applies double to John Hipwell, who would have never survived let alone thrived with such ethics. So evidently somebody's wire got crossed somewhere along the line.

It makes no sense to me that Wolverine Supplies would not be permitted to sell MCRs that they already possessed in Canada, regardless of what the US State Department had to say about future exports. What would prevent them from recouping their investment? If there were no individual MCR sales post-ban, then how did I get mine? It is not worth worrying about, so I won't. It is odd nonetheless.
 
Bartok5 said:
My friends are not the types to tell a lie in order to make a sale. That notion applies double to John Hipwell, who would have never survived let alone thrived with such ethics. So evidently somebody's wire got crossed somewhere along the line.

It makes no sense to me that Wolverine Supplies would not be permitted to sell MCRs that they already possessed in Canada, regardless of what the US State Department had to say about future exports. What would prevent them from recouping their investment? If there were no individual MCR sales post-ban, then how did I get mine? It is not worth worrying about, so I won't. It is odd nonetheless.
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deadman said:
Jesus. I'm sorry for bringing the MCR back to the top. Still want one though, I'd give my third nut for one.
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You are not wrong in terms of the MCR being a cool piece of gun gear. Its patented dual-feed system is both mechanically interesting and practically advantageous. The MCR's biggest single "issue" is/was its price tag. Due to the intricate machining of the receiver and belt-feed mechanism parts the price of an MCR was pretty steep at around $7K for a complete system. An upper alone without accessories was $4K(+). Although I occasionally regret selling my Upper Receiver and associated components, I don't regret recouping the value to my hobby fund....
 
The MCR concept was great in early mid 2000 when the original Aries defence announced the Shrike, but a lot of the hopium probably came from the iraq war with USG money showering on private security teams, and the remote hope some smaller units would bought a few to play around with so to work as their live marketing campaign.

But they had no money, took everyone deposit and milled around for like 10 years +..so long I forgot most of the story. Over the years there have been many of these ideas of using the AR lower as a the base of a LMG, but ultimately most of these ideas died with people wanting mag fed SAW not LMG ( the USMC and Singapore DF), and the so called assault MG built on aluminium extrusion tube starting with KAC some 7 or 8 years ago. Bartok hits it right in the head, the thing is complicated and too "compact" for a belt feld. There are also IWI Negrev out there if people really want to buy reliable and battle proven LMG with semi cable dual belt feed/mag fed capabilities. If no one wanted to buy the original KAC stoner LMG, why would anyone buy Shrike...other than civilians and people with registered lower in the US.

Just when Aries was ready to make Shrike in some more consistent numbers like 15 years after the original idea, they were also made obsolete by KAC, SIG and then later FN .
 
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