Mounties new pistol announced.
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Thunderhog
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Most RCMP members carry the old S&W 5946.
Since mid 1990's.......
https://collectorsfirearms.com/1372...er-and-features-a-must-have-for-pr16582.html/
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Safariland holster was actually part of the package, all good.
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Jon will the Glock pistols be carried in the Safariland Pro III’s? I’d hope so to be able to count on member’s having years of muscle memory built up on mastering their draw and then not shooting them self in the leg/foot holstering following a high stress situation.
The Safariland also has a proven weapon retention track record. Which ultimately saves more cop’s lives than the ammo they carry.
Retraining on an entirety new system like the Serpa just doesn’t make sense therefore we won’t look surprised if the top brass
at the puzzle factory changes horses mid-stream so to speak.
Even with the Modular Beavertail Backstrap System there will be a lot of Mini-Mounties with mini-Mountie-hands that will have a hard time dealing with the large double-stack grip frame. Did Glock offer a single-stack frame solution like S&W did for the members with tiny Gypsy pick-pocket hands?
The Safariland also has a proven weapon retention track record. Which ultimately saves more cop’s lives than the ammo they carry.
Retraining on an entirety new system like the Serpa just doesn’t make sense therefore we won’t look surprised if the top brass
at the puzzle factory changes horses mid-stream so to speak.
Even with the Modular Beavertail Backstrap System there will be a lot of Mini-Mounties with mini-Mountie-hands that will have a hard time dealing with the large double-stack grip frame. Did Glock offer a single-stack frame solution like S&W did for the members with tiny Gypsy pick-pocket hands?
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I honestly haven’t looked into that. I hope it’s the same style as we have now. I still have years of muscle memory from the leather holster that fudge me up when I try and rock my pistol out of the holster instead of pulling straight up.
New Camper
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ugh. What's with agencies thinking that converting to tupperware and striker fired is somehow modernizing and better?
I'd insist on keeping the old S&W pistol if I were a mountie: I knew someone that used to own one, and it was one of the most ergonomic pistols I ever shot: they are a good sidearm. Same with the military: yes, the Hipowers they had were probably worn out but no patent, or at least the ability to manufacture them still under license would have produced the familiar, reliable sidearm for cheaper and zero training changes. And for the herd that wants to bleat "100yo tech"... yeah, tell that to the special forces that still roll with the 1911. The Ranger rifle and every bolt action sniper rifle is based on 1800s tech, and the reciprocating internal combustion engine still rules in the car, truck etc. Age means nothing when quality, and reliability are what you need. I'd go so far as to want a S&W 686-3 and 158gr soft points: When you can shoot ~4" groups at 30y, you only need one shot when it's substantial. Of course this is Canazuela: mediocrity is celebrated, stupidity revered, progress manipulated to lend virtue to destruction, and excellence scorned so I suppose non of this makes much sense anymore.
I'd insist on keeping the old S&W pistol if I were a mountie: I knew someone that used to own one, and it was one of the most ergonomic pistols I ever shot: they are a good sidearm. Same with the military: yes, the Hipowers they had were probably worn out but no patent, or at least the ability to manufacture them still under license would have produced the familiar, reliable sidearm for cheaper and zero training changes. And for the herd that wants to bleat "100yo tech"... yeah, tell that to the special forces that still roll with the 1911. The Ranger rifle and every bolt action sniper rifle is based on 1800s tech, and the reciprocating internal combustion engine still rules in the car, truck etc. Age means nothing when quality, and reliability are what you need. I'd go so far as to want a S&W 686-3 and 158gr soft points: When you can shoot ~4" groups at 30y, you only need one shot when it's substantial. Of course this is Canazuela: mediocrity is celebrated, stupidity revered, progress manipulated to lend virtue to destruction, and excellence scorned so I suppose non of this makes much sense anymore.
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I wasn't just shouting at a cloud... corn chowder is awesome and while I've heard of Matlock, I've never watched it.
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I don't know what process was followed to arrive at this outcome, but it's a definite improvement over the 5946. It's a good pistol with a fantastic closed-emitter optic. I prefer Surefire lights, but there's nothing wrong with Streamlight.
I've only had the opportunity to shoot a 5946 one time, but the trigger pull was long and heavy. The DAO pull, as I understand it, was meant to help with the transition away from revolvers... Seems like a solution looking for a problem. While the Glock trigger isn't the best ever made, it's still better than the DAO.
Does anyone know why they went with the G45 and not the G17? Is the half-inch of barrel really that much of an issue? Or was this a situation of the RCMP wanting to outfit their officers with a prohibited firearm so that they could never end up in the hands of civilians?
I've only had the opportunity to shoot a 5946 one time, but the trigger pull was long and heavy. The DAO pull, as I understand it, was meant to help with the transition away from revolvers... Seems like a solution looking for a problem. While the Glock trigger isn't the best ever made, it's still better than the DAO.
Does anyone know why they went with the G45 and not the G17? Is the half-inch of barrel really that much of an issue? Or was this a situation of the RCMP wanting to outfit their officers with a prohibited firearm so that they could never end up in the hands of civilians?
Don't everyone get too excited....The Liberals haven't spent the coin yet. There is time for them to go with a more economical solution to ensure the RCMP get an adequate solution.
Wouldn't surprise me if the chose something like this.....
Something so FUGLY....I want one....
Traditionally the British converted .450/.577 Martini Rifles to .303 caliber, often turning them into carbines at the same time. However in this case, most likely in Northern India by the Khyber Pass, this pistol was constructed using a Martini style action, locally manufactured probably entirely by hand. Occasionally original British and European parts were used when acquired.
Year of Manufacture: circa 1896
Caliber: .303 British
Cartridge Type: Centerfire Cartridge
Overall Length: 5 1/2 Inches
Overall Length: 11 1/2 Inches
Action type: Falling-Block
Feed System: Single Shot
Wouldn't surprise me if the chose something like this.....
Afghan “Khyber Pass” Made British-Style Martini Metford .303 Pistol - circa 1896
Something so FUGLY....I want one....
Traditionally the British converted .450/.577 Martini Rifles to .303 caliber, often turning them into carbines at the same time. However in this case, most likely in Northern India by the Khyber Pass, this pistol was constructed using a Martini style action, locally manufactured probably entirely by hand. Occasionally original British and European parts were used when acquired.
Year of Manufacture: circa 1896
Caliber: .303 British
Cartridge Type: Centerfire Cartridge
Overall Length: 5 1/2 Inches
Overall Length: 11 1/2 Inches
Action type: Falling-Block
Feed System: Single Shot
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The G45 barrel is only 102mm.
Uhhhh .... because it is modernizing and better?
I've owned a 1911 for 40 years and competed with it for many years and a G17 is simply a better and more reliable handgun.
New Camper
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It has the facade of modernizing. But Glocks have been around since 1980: plastic striker fired is over 4 decades old now. If this was beyond a facade of modernizing there would be something better, not just the same thing from 1980 with different lipstick. If selecting something that was designed less than 40yrs ago is "modernizing" and "better", the 2008 Chiappa Rhino is the future.Uhhhh .... because it is modernizing and better?
I've owned a 1911 for 40 years and competed with it for many years and a G17 is simply a better and more reliable handgun.
This doesn't change the fact that there are 100yo arms designs that are still in service because they are still the best, and really the only way forward in modernizing is probably the laser.
Slide and barrel requirement, nothing to do with prohibited firearms. Surefire wasn't pick because they want nothing protruding end to snag, fit and flush to the slide and barrel.
Trigger is 6.5lb, I suspect it is the LE Trigger the Glock keeps advertising for the LE market. The trigger is not bad I shot qual with G17 Gen 5 with that type of trigger.
