Northern Rim...yet another cheap shortie .22

Yikes! Out of curiosity, I cranked my scope down all the way to the end of its travel (i.e. raising the POI to its maximum) and found that when sighted at 50 yards I have only an additional 15 clicks, less than 4MOA, from bottoming out. This is with standard velocity ammo; hi-velocity would print a bit higher and thus leave me a bit more wiggle-room at the bottom.

Depending upon velocity, bullet weight, etc. this might result in problems if I were to take it out to 100 yards, specifically with standard- or low-velocity ammo. My most common target shooting is at 100 yards at some permanent "gongs"...actually valve blanks from an oil refinery job I once worked at, so relatively mild steel and thus only useful for rimfire.

On top of that, I'm close to the edge of the scope's adjustment range and am certainly not looking through the "sweet spot" of the glass. Not a huge concern for a casual plinker, but still...:(

I kinda wish I hadn't done this; just something more to fret about which in reality might never have come to light during normal shooting. I hope that I will find a high-velocity load that shoots well in this gun and minimizes this concern.

As someone stated earlier, this might add to the idea that these guns suffer from droopy barrels. Consider that some owners are finding it difficult to sight in at all, and in my case I'm sighted but with very little margin for error in moving the POI upwards any further.
 
jjohnwm said:
Don't sweat it; I started the de-rail, but it's my thread so it's all good.

I ordered my stock for the Chiappa from Tillsonburg Gun Shop; $135, I think? Hasn't even arrived yet, but I was thrilled with how a full-length stock turned my Henry Mare's Leg .44 from a novelty into an absolutely terrific little hunting rifle and I expect the same functionality from this one. :)
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Thanks for heads up - stock on its way to me as we speak. Great service from Tillsonburg.

Have a little Leupold 1.5-5 to stick on it and with the new stock going to feel like an entirely different gun.

I came here eager for the NorthernRim, but leaving here with the ‘new gun feeling’ for a gun I already own. Hopefully will keep me satisfied while more reviews/feedback trickles in on these little Chinese monsters.

Interested to hear others experiences!
 
If someone that has one of these could take some time to post the targets/groups that would be a great help for me trying to decide if I want to buy one of these or not
 
mattgoulding said:
If someone that has one of these could take some time to post the targets/groups that would be a great help for me trying to decide if I want to buy one of these or not
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I'm still waiting for Hunter Henderson to get some spare time.... :)

At this point I'm waiting on a bunch of consistent reviews good or bad... reviews so far are a bit all over the map.
 
went out this a.m. with this little one.
ran 200 cci sv and 50 blazer through it and when i was on,it was on.
preformed an extreme cleaning with brake cleaner and lucas clp afterwards.it was as all chinese rifles,extremely dirty!
i did some light filing here and there to smoothen out the bolt closing but noticed it did improve with use.
no problem with 1in groups @ 50yards;then moved to steel loonie/quarter sized spinners and had a blast.
personally i think it's a fun little rig but if you want smoother action and above average accuracy inexpensively.......savage fv sr would be the bet!

had no other scope on hand so i used this 6-24x
 

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went out this a.m. with this little one.
ran 200 cci sv and 50 blazer through it and when i was on,it was on.
preformed an extreme cleaning with brake cleaner and lucas clp afterwards.it was as all chinese rifles,extremely dirty!
i did some light filing here and there to smoothen out the bolt closing but noticed it did improve with use.
no problem with 1in groups @ 50yards;then moved to steel loonie/quarter sized spinners and had a blast.
personally i think it's a fun little rig but if you want smoother action and above average accuracy inexpensively.......savage fv sr would be the bet!

had no other scope on hand so i used this 6-24x
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Thanks, what was the group size of the blazers averaging out at?
Not seeing the target was not an issue by the looks of it..... :)

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the spread with blazers was noticeable but not too bad,i find it difficult to control as it is short and light i have the same issue with my carbon fiber ruger.the optic weighs more than the rifle.lol
the steel was a bit more misses as compared to the sv that never missed.
 
First one is @50 yards with cci sv and the northernrim
Second os same with savage fv.
Disclaimer: I never said I was a great shot.lol
 

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Thanks for the target pics blinklit!

It's nice to see fairly tight roundish "groups" over stringing or large "shotgun pattern", looks like your getting around an inch and a half (3moa) with the Rim shot and a bit tighter with the Savage.

The Savage groups are all roughly inside the Rimshot's by the look of it. 3/4-1" (1.5-2MOA)
 
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Pics of three different ammo’s I used after I added .004 bolt shim I made from brass shim stock. Eley ammo now fires 90%. My rifle definitely has a generous amount of headspace. I might try some pop can aluminum to make a thicker one I measured it at about .006 to .007 thou. If it makes a real difference I might try and order some proper bolt shims from trigger shims. Rail is definitely canted down at the rear. It’s like they meant to cant it but got it backwards. Used the dovetail and no issues zeroing scope for elevation.
 

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Canadian Caliber TV guys just dropped a video and it looks like North Sylva is more active in the comments then they are here!

Fern calls the stock nice walnut at least twice and also refers to it as a great plinker and a precision shooter? He also likes the grooved over sized bolt handle which he refers to as a knurled oversized charging handle. He really liked the votex red dot which he refers to as an eotech... :)

They mention the value of the price many times but fail to demonstrate how accurate the gun is out of the box , their unit seemed to feed nicely which is good because a cheap gun that won't run would not be good value!

They never shoot from a fully supported position or mention the distance they are shooting at when showing targets other then to say it's short distance and by the looks of it they are getting around 3-4inch groups but they show 1 target with 3 different ammo types and it's not clear what is what? Plinker for sure, precision not so much.

There are some bad cuts in the video where some words get cut out... talking about the rubber butt pad for instance.

I appreciate the effort the CCTV guys do pimping gear for North Sylva but they should try and up there game with some slightly better accuracy tests and maybe get the technical terms ironed out and facts (walnut stain) a little more on point,

I don't have a youtube account so can't comment directly otherwise I would have asked them to clarify the walnut and accuracy but I assume they hang here and if not not doubt someone will mention it in the comments. There is a guy in the comments trying to say it's a Scorpio with a wood stock which got North Sylva fired up.... :)

 
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Yeah, videos like this do nothing to entice me to buy a gun. I want a review that is done by a shooter, who understands what he is talking about and can speak intelligently about it...not a salesman.

I had to laugh when the guy with the hat commented on "old school" shooters who fire from the shoulder. His stance and position seemed pretty standard to me, but then the guy who should have worn a hat fired the gun with just the bottom point of the recoil pad barely touching his shoulder. New age methodology? I'd love to see him fire a rifled slug gun or a big-bore centerfire that way. :ROFLMAO:

The "walnut" stock and "the little mount there" for a bipod...we old-schoolers used to call them sling swivel studs...are nice touches and I enjoyed hearing about them, just like the "knurled charging handle". Accuracy at unspecified distances, using mixed ammo and shot from entirely unsupported positions seemed...well, kinda ####ty, depending upon what that unspecified distance actually was. Is this just lousy reporting...or is it a way to avoid quantifying how bad the accuracy actually is?

I'm still liking this little gun; have about 400 rounds through it now, and have gotten 1-inch or a wee bit better @50 with a couple types of standard velocity ammo...sadly, stuff of which I had only tail-ends of boxes or bricks bought long ago. This was done the old-school way, i.e. off a solid rest to test accuracy. It's on its third optic now and I think I'm satisfied; if I can get 2MOA, i.e. an inch at 50, with ammo that I can get a brick or two right away, I will leave the scope on. But if 1 inch is too difficult to replicate regularly, I'll likely install a red dot just for gits'n'shiggles. :)

Sorry, no pics; even with "real" guns, I have no patience or interest in labelling and photographing endless series of targets. Sure won't be doing it with a casual toy like this. :)
 
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Can-down said:
Canadian Caliber TV guys just dropped a video and it looks like North Sylva is more active in the comments then they are here!

Fern calls the stock nice walnut at least twice and also refers to it as a great plinker and a precision shooter? He also likes the grooved over sized bolt handle which he refers to as a knurled oversized charging handle. He really liked the votex red dot which he refers to as an eotech... :)

They mention the value of the price many times but fail to demonstrate how accurate the gun is out of the box , there unit seemed to feed nicely which is good because a cheap gun that won't run would not be good value!

They never shoot from a fully supported position or mention the distance they are shooting at when showing targets other then to say it;s short distance and by the looks of it they are getting around 3-4inch groups but they show 1 target with 3 different ammo types and it's not clear what is what? Plinker for sure, precision not so much.

There are some bad cuts in the video where some words get cut out... talking about the rubber butt pad for instance.

I appreciate the effort the CCTV guys do pimping gear for North Sylva but they could try and up there game with some slightly better accuracy tests and maybe get the technical terms ironed out and facts (walnut stain) a little more on point,

I don't have a youtube account so can't comment directly otherwise I would have asked them to clarify the walnut and accuracy but I assume they hang here and if not not doubt someone will mention it in the comments. There is a guy in the comments trying to say it's a Scorpio with a wood stock which got North Sylva fired up.... :)

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Agreed. Canadian Caliber has so much potential to showcase firearms available to Canadians, but execute it terribly. How hard is it to setup a bench at 50 yards and test a rifle? All they seem to do well is shill for Chinese/Turkish firearms. I could never base my decision to purchase something from anything they do. Don't get me wrong, they have potential to be decent shooters, but watching any of their reviews, one would never find out.
 
jjohnwm said:
Yeah, videos like this do nothing to entice me to buy a gun. I want a review that is done by a shooter, who understands what he is talking about and can speak intelligently about it...not a salesman.

I had to laugh when the guy with the hat commented on "old school" shooters who fire from the shoulder. His stance and position seemed pretty standard to me, but then the guy who should have worn a hat fired the gun with just the bottom point of the recoil pad barely touching his shoulder. New age methodology? I'd love to see him fire a rifled slug gun or a big-bore centerfire that way. :ROFLMAO:

The "walnut" stock and "the little mount there" for a bipod...we old-schoolers used to call them sling swivel studs...are nice touches and I enjoyed hearing about them, just like the "knurled charging handle". Accuracy at unspecified distances, using mixed ammo and shot from entirely unsupported positions seemed...well, kinda ####ty, depending upon what that unspecified distance actually was. Is this just lousy reporting...or is it a way to avoid quantifying how bad the accuracy actually is?

I'm still liking this little gun; have about 400 rounds through it now, and have gotten 1-inch or a wee bit better @50 with a couple types of standard velocity ammo...sadly, stuff of which I had only tail-ends of boxes or bricks bought long ago. This was done the old-school way, i.e. off a solid rest to test accuracy. It's on its third optic now and I think I'm satisfied; if I can get 1/2MOA, i.e. an inch at 50, with ammo that I can get a brick or two right away, I will leave the scope on. But if 1 inch is too difficult to replicate regularly, I'll likely install a red dot just for gits'n'shiggles. :)

Sorry, no pics; even with "real" guns, I have no patience or interest in labelling and photographing endless series of targets. Sure won't be doing it with a casual toy like this. :)
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jjohnwm said:
Yeah, videos like this do nothing to entice me to buy a gun. I want a review that is done by a shooter, who understands what he is talking about and can speak intelligently about it...not a salesman.

I had to laugh when the guy with the hat commented on "old school" shooters who fire from the shoulder. His stance and position seemed pretty standard to me, but then the guy who should have worn a hat fired the gun with just the bottom point of the recoil pad barely touching his shoulder. New age methodology? I'd love to see him fire a rifled slug gun or a big-bore centerfire that way. :ROFLMAO:

The "walnut" stock and "the little mount there" for a bipod...we old-schoolers used to call them sling swivel studs...are nice touches and I enjoyed hearing about them, just like the "knurled charging handle". Accuracy at unspecified distances, using mixed ammo and shot from entirely unsupported positions seemed...well, kinda ####ty, depending upon what that unspecified distance actually was. Is this just lousy reporting...or is it a way to avoid quantifying how bad the accuracy actually is?

I'm still liking this little gun; have about 400 rounds through it now, and have gotten 1-inch or a wee bit better @50 with a couple types of standard velocity ammo...sadly, stuff of which I had only tail-ends of boxes or bricks bought long ago. This was done the old-school way, i.e. off a solid rest to test accuracy. It's on its third optic now and I think I'm satisfied; if I can get 1/2MOA, i.e. an inch at 50, with ammo that I can get a brick or two right away, I will leave the scope on. But if 1 inch is too difficult to replicate regularly, I'll likely install a red dot just for gits'n'shiggles. :)

Sorry, no pics; even with "real" guns, I have no patience or interest in labelling and photographing endless series of targets. Sure won't be doing it with a casual toy
jjohnwm said:
Yeah, videos like this do nothing to entice me to buy a gun. I want a review that is done by a shooter, who understands what he is talking about and can speak intelligently about it...not a salesman.

I had to laugh when the guy with the hat commented on "old school" shooters who fire from the shoulder. His stance and position seemed pretty standard to me, but then the guy who should have worn a hat fired the gun with just the bottom point of the recoil pad barely touching his shoulder. New age methodology? I'd love to see him fire a rifled slug gun or a big-bore centerfire that way. :ROFLMAO:

The "walnut" stock and "the little mount there" for a bipod...we old-schoolers used to call them sling swivel studs...are nice touches and I enjoyed hearing about them, just like the "knurled charging handle". Accuracy at unspecified distances, using mixed ammo and shot from entirely unsupported positions seemed...well, kinda ####ty, depending upon what that unspecified distance actually was. Is this just lousy reporting...or is it a way to avoid quantifying how bad the accuracy actually is?

I'm still liking this little gun; have about 400 rounds through it now, and have gotten 1-inch or a wee bit better @50 with a couple types of standard velocity ammo...sadly, stuff of which I had only tail-ends of boxes or bricks bought long ago. This was done the old-school way, i.e. off a solid rest to test accuracy. It's on its third optic now and I think I'm satisfied; if I can get 1/2MOA, i.e. an inch at 50, with ammo that I can get a brick or two right away, I will leave the scope on. But if 1 inch is too difficult to replicate regularly, I'll likely install a red dot just for gits'n'shiggles. :)

Sorry, no pics; even with "real" guns, I have no patience or interest in labelling and photographing endless series of targets. Sure won't be doing it with a casual toy like this. :)
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An inch at 50 is not 1/2 Moa it’s 2 moa. 1/2 inch at 50 is moa. So far the best I’ve done is 2 moa or 1 inch at 50 , Thats for 10 shots. But it will not do this consistently. With the bolt shim I added it’s a little more consistent. Blazer shoots about 31/2 to 4 moa fairly consistent. All right for plinking I guess. Most consistent ammo ive tried is Sk. Standard + and high velocity match.
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