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Couple of shots of one of my MilMatch rifles. This one is unfired since it left the factory. The other has been lightly shot and was "mostly" restored from being sportered many years ago. If anyone has a line on a stamped 'early type' nosecap for a MkIII, I would about give a kidney for one...
 
Hi guys, wondering if you Ross guys can help. I have an M-10 that is marked G.H.G. which from what I understand as Home Guard designation.

The barrel is shortened and the stock is cut as well but all of it looks like it was done in factory and not as a sporter job. Does anyone know if these came out of the shop like this?



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Extremely unlikely that a HG rifle sported like that came out of the factory in that configuration.

A 1910 Military Match rifle in .280 just sold in Switzers Auction for a total including commission and tax for over $26000. (Yes, three zeros).
 
Extremely unlikely that a HG rifle sported like that came out of the factory in that configuration.

A 1910 Military Match rifle in .280 just sold in Switzers Auction for a total including commission and tax for over $26000. (Yes, three zeros).
Tiriaq, that was a bit of a shock to us all. I was watching it wondering when it was going to end. But there are only a small handful of them in private collections, and there were two different buyers who really wanted it. Looks like that one went to BC as well, not sure who it went to though.

The HG would have absolutely NOT come from factory like that. Too bad as they’re usually the cream of the MkIIIs condition wise.
 
Tiriaq, that was a bit of a shock to us all. I was watching it wondering when it was going to end. But there are only a small handful of them in private collections, and there were two different buyers who really wanted it. Looks like that one went to BC as well, not sure who it went to though.

The HG would have absolutely NOT come from factory like that. Too bad as they’re usually the cream of the MkIIIs condition wise.

Ok fair enough, I think I'm just trying to understand is if this was the original length as the muzzle has a flat crown.

The stock also attaches to the barrel (nose cap) with a very similar piece as most standard m-10s. Also, the bayonet lug would make no sense for a sporter.


The front sights are clearly wrong but this doesn't look like a civilian sporter.

Could this be more like a militia or Canadian ranger variant?
 
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No, it was sported for use as a hunting rifle.
HG rifles tend to be either in fine, intact as made, condition or sported. Bore condition will depend on whether the shooters understood cleaning after firing corrosive ammunition.
 
Ross Rifle Co. Of Canada
Mk.III Model 1910 (M-10)
1915

SN# 8/1915
964B (Under the barrel, at the level of the chamber)
D.A.400 (Chile Serial number)
.303 British (Mk.VII) 7,7×56mmR
5 Rd. Single stack Integral Box magazine (non-removable)
Straight-pull (Cocking on open)
Designed by Sir Charles Ross.

D.A.400; Rear sight Type A; It is estimated that 250 of these remain in circulation. These rifles were presented to Great Britain by Canada in exchange for SMLEs. A number of them were distributed to the Royal Canadian Navy and some marines in Royal Navy ships, and a small number ended up aboard HMS Canada, a ship commissioned by Chile before the start of World War I, but purchased by Great Britain in 1914 before delivery.

https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibi...os_search-e.aspx@section=4-C&id=6&page=0.html

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Ross Rifle Co. Of Canada
Mk.II 4* Model 1905
1910

SN# 495/1910
.303 British (Mk.VII) 7,7×56mmR
5 rd. Double stack Integral Box Magazine (Non-removable)
Straight-pull (Cocking on open)
Designed by Sir Charles Ross.

Rear sight Pilblad (Final version) for .303 British Mk.VI ammunition; The knurled button on the right side depresses the follower of the Harris Controlled Platform Magazine; Late Mk.II bolt.

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Ross Rifle Co. Of Canada
Mk.III* Model 1910 (M-10)
1915

SN# 191/1915
199B (Under the barrel, at the level of the chamber)
D.A.352 (Chile Serial number)
.303 British (Mk.VII) 7,7×56mmR
5 rd. Single stack Integral Box magazine (Non-removable)
Straight-pull (Cocking on open)
Designed by Sir Charles Ross.

D.A.352; Rear sight Type A; It is estimated that 250 of these remain in circulation. These rifles were presented to Great Britain by Canada in exchange for SMLEs. A number of them were distributed to the Royal Canadian Navy and some marines in Royal Navy ships, and a small number ended up aboard HMS Canada, a ship commissioned by Chile before the start of World War I, but purchased by Great Britain in 1914 before delivery.

https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibi...os_search-e.aspx@section=4-C&id=6&page=0.html

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Hi guys, wondering if you Ross guys can help. I have an M-10 that is marked G.H.G. which from what I understand as Home Guard designation.

The barrel is shortened and the stock is cut as well but all of it looks like it was done in factory and not as a sporter job. Does anyone know if these came out of the shop like this?



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Hi Dion. Sorry to tell you that your Home Guard Ross Mk III service rifle has been altered to a sporting configuration whch includes the front band. The Canadian Home Guard sprung up in late 1914 and early 1915 in border towns to prevent the
boshe hords from invading us from the U.S. Home Guard units were mostly older gents supporting the war effort but incapable of passing military requirements. Some were guys who just like to show the press that we can defend ourselves if called upon. Home Guard units purchased their rifles directly from the Ross factory. No Bayonets or uniforms just civvy clothes marching in mass. Few rifles were ever shot at all. I have GHG 6 but unfortunately I have no idea what unit it represents. Maybe someone out there can enlighten us. I hope you enjoy it. John
 
Ross Rifle Co. Of Canada
Mk.III* Model 1910 (M-10)
.303 British (Mk.VII) 7,7×56mmR
5 rd. Single stack Integral Box magazine (Non-removable)
Straight-pull (Cocking on open)
Designed by Sir Charles Ross.
1915
D.A.352
SN# 199B


D.A.352; Rear sight Type A; It is estimated that 250 of these remain in circulation. These rifles were presented to Great Britain by Canada in exchange for SMLEs. A number of them were distributed to the Royal Marines, and a small number ended up aboard HMS Canada, a ship commissioned by Chile before the start of World War I, but purchased by Great Britain in 1914 before delivery.

https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibi...os_search-e.aspx@section=4-C&id=6&page=0.html
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Ross Rifle Co. Of Canada
Mk.III* Model 1910 (M-10)
.303 British (Mk.VII) 7,7×56mmR
5 rd. Single stack Integral Box magazine (Non-removable)
Straight-pull (Cocking on open)
Designed by Sir Charles Ross.
1915
D.A.352
SN# 199B


D.A.352; Rear sight Type A; It is estimated that 250 of these remain in circulation. These rifles were presented to Great Britain by Canada in exchange for SMLEs. A number of them were distributed to the Royal Marines, and a small number ended up aboard HMS Canada, a ship commissioned by Chile before the start of World War I, but purchased by Great Britain in 1914 before delivery.

https://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/exhibi...os_search-e.aspx@section=4-C&id=6&page=0.html
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Hi Jeepix. The foresigt hoods on all of your Ross rifles have been reversed. The entire idea of having a slant on the front end of the hood is to put light in front of the foresight so that it is silouetted. Also your Mk II 4* is serial number is 495 series BO made in 1910. 4000 Mk II 4* were made (series BM, BN, BO, and BP) and promptly reconverted to the 3* Pattern.
Its nice that you can see both pattern designations in the stock. John
 
Hi Jeepix. The foresigt hoods on all of your Ross rifles have been reversed. The entire idea of having a slant on the front end of the hood is to put light in front of the foresight so that it is silouetted. Also your Mk II 4* is serial number is 495 series BO made in 1910. 4000 Mk II 4* were made (series BM, BN, BO, and BP) and promptly reconverted to the 3* Pattern.
Its nice that you can see both pattern designations in the stock. John
Thank you very much for your information, I will adjust my data and my foresight hoods. :)
 
Thank you very much for your information, I will adjust my data and my foresight hoods. :)
I have been inspired by Flying Pig's entry on the CEF circle marked Ross to add a little ditty about a WW2 marked Ross. It was rumoured to me years ago by a Vet that he and a squad of 4-5 others along with an officer were tasked to drive out to an underground storage bunker (I believe he said Nova Scotia) and extract cases of Ross Mk III rifles to be inspected by them prior to shipment to gun starved England in the early WW2 years. They had to clean and shoot 1 rd to ensure saftey. Apparently it took many days - many rifles. Only 1 blow back. The U.K employed many private firms to inspect and inhance rifles before issue to secondary staff. The attached 2 pics show a 1916 Mk III that has been slightly "resurfaced - the English term" by Parker Hale in 1944 - clearly stamped on the wrist. 2nd pic shows the handguard rivets flattened (or replaced) in the process but all butt marks appear weak but still legible. Rifle is near spotless new so never got issued I can only assume. Brit Nitro Proofs prove export to Canada commercially after the war. A bundle for Britain with a PH connection. John T.
 

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Were you able to log details of the two Ross "snipers" when you saw them in Woodtick? Can you confirm that either or both were in fact either 1915 or 1917 MkIII's and that the 'scopes were either or both Canadian Contract Warner & Swazey 1913's with serials below 500 as well as having 2,400 yard range wheels rather than the far more common 1913 US Contract W&S's?Were the owner's initials "JT"?
BTW: beware! There is a built-up Ross "sniper' currently being pimped in Canada by an outfit in England who shall remain nameless right now.It's a US W&S on Walt Disney mounts, screwed onto a 1916 MkIII.
No thats NOT me. It was probably Bob. I would have to be brain damaged to bring into a Gun Show two
original Ross sniper rifles. They do not get damaged sitting at home. JT
 
Hi Jeepix. The foresigt hoods on all of your Ross rifles have been reversed. John
Why have I seen PAMS showing the hood as per slant in front? I've seen both ways in a variety of Canadian Army literature.
Personally I like the look better with the slant matching the sight base. I don't think having the flat part of the hood towards the rear, will bring that much of a different or better sight picture. Blackening the sight with a carbide flame on a range may be of assistance, but on a 2 way range, it ain't going to be noticed.
Just my question and .02c worth.
 
Why have I seen PAMS showing the hood as per slant in front? I've seen both ways in a variety of Canadian Army literature.
Personally I like the look better with the slant matching the sight base. I don't think having the flat part of the hood towards the rear, will bring that much of a different or better sight picture. Blackening the sight with a carbide flame on a range may be of assistance, but on a 2 way range, it ain't going to be noticed.
Just my question and .02c worth.
In pieces I’ve witnessed, all are correct with the slant forward EXCEPT certain presentation pieces. I have seen two MkIII presentation rifles that were not messed with with the hood matching the base slant. I believe on these it was left that way for aesthetics. On the rest, the hood slant goes forward as it covers the sight blade properly to allow the proper sight picture and to reduce glare on the blade, same idea as flame blackening. My MkIII short rifle ‘MilMatch’ above has not had a single screw removed since factory and is unfired, and the hood slant goes forward. Same as on the near new MkIII HG rifle in my possession.
 
This is an original Ross Rifle Company poster. Not mint but it looks great framed in our living room. It has creases and stains but the colours are as vibrant and bright as new. Excuse the angled shot, it was hard to get a photo without glare. I’m guessing that it’s about a hundred years old.IMG_3180.jpeg
 
A few Ross pics,
First one .280 Ross, second is a sportered no1 mk111 Ross, third one is a 1905 mk11 two star sporter
 

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No not same one ,got this from a fellow estate sale long ago ,I have it listed now for sale but no taker as of yet . Going to move most of what I have in next while.The .280 is in very nice condition,I also have dies and brass.
 
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