The IWI Carmel: Initial Thoughts and Observations **Range Report added on post #48**

[Master-G]

Got my good today and took it to the range. Went thru 100 Rounds it bangs

Is there any aftermarket handguard available?

I’ve seen a few for sale in the States but nothing here so far that I’ve been able to find. I like the stubby grip on mine but I’d gladly swap out the aluminum handguard for a lighter-weight polymer one.

 

[Painkillers]

Here we go again as the IWI Carmel thread becomes YET ANOTHER discussion of the "gun ban". Can we not have just one thread that stays on subject?

No.

 

[hannibal.black98]

Can we get some more accuracy tests? I don’t know if I blame the shooter or the gun but they seem to shoot no better than I can with an SKS + bulk ammo via irons

 

[BLCB]

Well they are supposed to be hitting dealers today. I have little doubt North Sylva will delay them further to milk some more restricted sales. Not sure why the NR hasn't already been put out otherwise.

 

[Sniffer]

Can we get some more accuracy tests? I don’t know if I blame the shooter or the gun but they seem to shoot no better than I can with an SKS + bulk ammo via irons

I believe it has a skinny barrel like the Tavor but unlike the Tavor it is free floated (which should help)?

The Tavor is a great gun with many good features but never had the best accuracy from my experience.

 

[IchBinEinSniper]

Can we get some more accuracy tests? I don’t know if I blame the shooter or the gun but they seem to shoot no better than I can with an SKS + bulk ammo via irons

It’s usually the shooter. Expectations are also to blame…

 

[IchBinEinSniper]

I believe it has a skinny barrel like the Tavor but unlike the Tavor it is free floated (which should help)?

The Tavor is a great gun with many good features but never had the best accuracy from my experience.

Tavon is a great gun…just don’t expect it to be a match rifle, it’s a hit it’s target rifle, and the Carmel is the same.

 

[firearm123]

went to the range again.. do you guys find the mag release button is too stiff ? Hard to press

 

[Sniffer]

went to the range again.. do you guys find the mag release button is too stiff ? Hard to press

Would guess new and tight?

Should break in to a better place. Could lube it a little and work it some to help.

 

[firearm123]

Took the trigger part out and lubed it abit.. surprisingly easy only 1 bolt holding it

 

[SA85M1]

I like the rifle...hopefully it stays around..

 

[Master-G]

went to the range again.. do you guys find the mag release button is too stiff ? Hard to press

Just checked mine and it feels similar to my other rifles’ mag releases.

 

[firearm123]

Just checked mine and it feels similar to my other rifles’ mag releases.

Maybe my previous rifle BH release is too loose
will get used to the carmel style .. excellent rifle!!

 

[cptseawolf]

NS just posted this on social and in their sub forum in the NR post.

Glorious days mes amis!!

*Where's the dude that said the barrels haven't been made yet?......

 

[Sniffer]

NS just posted this on social and in their sub forum in the NR post.

Glorious days mes amis!!

*Where's the dude that said the barrels haven't been made yet?......

Didn't they post previously and say dealers would have them by October 30th?

 

[firearm123]

NS just posted this on social and in their sub forum in the NR post.

Glorious days mes amis!!

*Where's the dude that said the barrels haven't been made yet?......

Wondering how many in the first shipment

 

[cptseawolf]

Didn't they post previously and say dealers would have them by October 30th?

No they said shipping out....not received.

 

[kaputcom]

More wait

 

[IchBinEinSniper]

 

[hannibal.black98]

I believe it has a skinny barrel like the Tavor but unlike the Tavor it is free floated (which should help)?

The Tavor is a great gun with many good features but never had the best accuracy from my experience.

With mine, an X95, off my elbows with an 4x ACOG I could keep three, 10 round magazines into 6” at 200 yards with bulk M193, PMC…shooting “rapid”.

Off a rest with bulk M193, PMC I could keep 10 rounds into 2.5-3” at 100 yards….one or two of those rounds would open up an 1.5” group average into said 2.5”-3”…always had a few “fliers”. Gun would shoot fine until about 50 rounds, going very rapid then it’s open up a lot past 100 yards but it also cooled down fast.

The Carmel is shooting, by most reviews, 3”-5” 100 yard groups with GOOD ammo…so hopefully it’s the shooters, not the gun!