Black Bears can be Dangerous!!

....is the Casull something you can get a permit to carry out west or do you just do it?No need to incriminate yerself if you wish to decline answering.

grinrgrn, I too was born at st.joes, it still after a decade is a novelty that in BC we are treated like resposnibe adults.
 
I guess I'll have to dig deeper to see if I can actually get a permit here?I'm just going by heresay from another trapper telling me I can't.1st off,I suppose I'd best get myself a restricted licence?Maybe it's up to the individual CFO for each province?Don't know what ours is like.i don't see why not though if I jump through the hoops and proove trapping/guiding is part of my livelihood?
 
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I've gone over these threads quite a bit and I'm not convinced the bear was as dangerous as you think. Nothing in the pictures makes me see anything different than a feeding bear. As far as the shot not scaring him, that is not unusual, as wild game often doesn't know anything about shooting, and just hears a roar of thunder. I have done the same thing without any effect.
If you would have jumped up, roared and made a charge at him, you could then have judged his thoughts on you better. You had a rifle in your hands, you could have done it.
And, if black bears kill more people than any other type bear, it is only because black bears are so wide spread and there are so many of them, as compared to the dangerous grizzlies and polar bears.
The story of the woman killed in Quebec by a bear has gotten a lot of press, but the story continues that this is only the second death by a bear in 25 years in Quebec! A danger so small as to be not worth mentioning.
 
Here is a count comparison...

In BC we have over 1/2 of Canada's black bear population with a count of far more than 200,000 we also have about 20,000 grizzlies.
 
Here is a count comparison...

In BC we have over 1/2 of Canada's black bear population with a count of far more than 200,000 we also have about 20,000 grizzlies.

Jeez we must have all the rest here in AB then, last count I saw said 120 thousand and growing.:confused:
 
Black bears are curiuos...I give them a ton of respect (alas the dog does not). I run into tons here in Squampton on a daily basis. I consider them to be dangerous but not a scary monster of the forest. Just another variable that needs to be recognized and respected.

When it is legal to bring a rifle/shotgun I do...

Better to have and not need.

Cool shots glad it worked out for you
 
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My new bear buster. Tiny little thing, short, light, handy. 500 S&W :D
 
No it's just that I'm perfect, and need not make allowances for error on my part :p


I'm just glad I've managed to stay humble.
 
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sounds like words from a keyboard warrior who has never faced a bear encounter :wave: ;)

These sound like the words of somebody very young and inexpereinced. The times that I've been charged by bear it made no difference if there was as second round or not. You want to make sure of that first one.:dancingbanana:
 
I've only been charged by one bear, it came out of thick brush, at close range. I was able to quickly put a semi aimed round into it which broke the charge and a quick second shot sent the bear on its way.


From my experience, I'd prefer a repeating rifle for bear defense. Having to dig around in my pockets for a second cartridge while the bear is still within spitting distance is not high on my to-do list :wave:
 
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Here in BC we have had several bear attacks this year alone were the bear had to be shot. A lot of people think of them as cuddly. They forget that they are a wild animal and you ether give them space or shoot it. Nice pictures. I knew a guy (hence knew for the bear killed him) that thought he knew all about bears and went out with his camera to take pictures of them. He never returned. They found what was left among several bears and had to shoot the lot of the 5 in all. We have both Grizzle and black bears here and I do hunt them but I also have a healthy respect for what they can o to you as well.
 
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I've gone over these threads quite a bit and I'm not convinced the bear was as dangerous as you think. Nothing in the pictures makes me see anything different than a feeding bear. As far as the shot not scaring him, that is not unusual, as wild game often doesn't know anything about shooting, and just hears a roar of thunder. I have done the same thing without any effect.
If you would have jumped up, roared and made a charge at him, you could then have judged his thoughts on you better. You had a rifle in your hands, you could have done it.
And, if black bears kill more people than any other type bear, it is only because black bears are so wide spread and there are so many of them, as compared to the dangerous grizzlies and polar bears.
The story of the woman killed in Quebec by a bear has gotten a lot of press, but the story continues that this is only the second death by a bear in 25 years in Quebec! A danger so small as to be not worth mentioning.


H4381, you may be right. Since I respect you I will answer you directly. Some of the idiots on this board seem to know more about what happened then I do. A couple of other guys have suggested the same thing as you and they may also be right.

I know that I caused the situation, it was my own damn fault.



Yes it is possible that if I had done that, the bear may have turned tail but I don't believe that, because of the way it reacted to my yelling at it, gave me the idea that it was not stopping.

The point I tried to make is that in the situation that I was in, 250 yards from my ATV, without back-up, with no other options really, the only thing I could do was shoot in front of it.
TBart said I could have thrown a rock, trust me, there were none there, but yeah that might have worked (if available).

So if I had made the assumption that the bear meant me no harm, the next thing is, it would have been too close for me to do anything else, except kill it. I am certain that I did the correct thing.

The other thing about that bear was the way it reacted after I caught up to it again a few minutes later was very different. It was a very aggressive bear.



People have opinions and will believe whatever they want.
 
I think calling you a greenhorn or som similar thing is kind of stupid. I know I would have dropped the bear. I don't like them, I don't usually hunt them.

Re the # of black bear attacks. About 8 years ago I was at a meeting with Sean Conway who at the time had been the MPP for Renfrew County for 25 years talking about the cancellation of the spring bear hunt and he made the comment that there had been an incident a year since he took office in his riding. The people weren't all killed, but Black bears had attacked and/or killed 25 different people in Renfrew county over the previous 25 years.

I have no desire to hunt them for some reason, I see them on the golf course here in Ft Mc regularly and they leave us alone. In fact a group of us tee'd off with a bear about the size of the one Demonical took the pictures sitting in the bushes eating berries about 15 feet away. It was kind of funny, it was a tournament with 6 guys playing each hole in a scramble format, we got there first and wasn't sure what to do and Jim Boucher the cheif of the Fort McKay band just walked up onto the tee, blasted away and the bear never even looked at him. We all hit, the bear never moved. Conservation officers shot it about 30 minutes later.
 
You know when a person feels he is out of options and short of killing the dam thing managed to chase it back to give himself time to get out it was them the right thing. Here I know it would have just died our ranchers also would thank you for sending it to a new hunting ground SO good on you for what you did and Very nice pictures to I mite add. Next time you should make a rug. It should be bigger by then
 
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