home defence shotgun, which one?

Mavis has got my back. These days she's got the factory butt stock on her becasue the Knoxx pasted my cheek something fierce. Cost $209.99 from Wholesale Sports and she hasn't failed me yet

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i have a maverick but with the full ribbed barrel. use it for clays. for $200 it racks smooth, shoots every time and is a good bargain. a little light, with the cheap stock but man it was hard to pass up for $200.
 
for $200-250 a 2 3/4 wingmaster. cut the barrel to 20" and your set

Excellent advice. Personally I'd cut the barrel to 18 or 18.5" but that's a personal preference.

Old beat up Wingmasters are probably the best deal out there.

If your set on a shorty than I'd go with a Norc or Grizzly.
 
its legal, non-restricted, compact yet if you ever end up in court after shooting a home invader (and you will most likely be charged with something) then it will look a hell of a lot more innocent than the average zombie gun.

manbearpig is right, if you're on a shotgun budget, you probably don't have the coin to pay for an attorney to keep you out of jail for shooting an home invader.
 
i still think if you are in an area where you actually are seriously putting thought into a 'home defense gun' then you would be much better off first hardening your home against burglars, then getting a dog, and then worrying about a home defense gun.

dont get me wrong -- not saying dont get a shotgun. hell, this is the shotgun forum and we are all gun nuts.
IMO it is better to first take steps that will most likely prevent the situation entirely, and then worry about what to use in the event that they fail.

Most definitely do something to increase the security of your home. A lot less hassle installing bars, or locks on the windows than explaining the dead guy in the living room.

TDC
 
Originally Posted by manbearpig:
its legal, non-restricted, compact yet if you ever end up in court after shooting a home invader (and you will most likely be charged with something) then it will look a hell of a lot more innocent than the average zombie gun.

manbearpig is right, if you're on a shotgun budget, you probably don't have the coin to pay for an attorney to keep you out of jail for shooting an home invader.

As soon as the topic of guns come up I've never heard one liberal say, "Oh my god, were they brown or black guns ? Because brown I'm 100% fine with."

It's going to be a cold day in hell when I'm at the gun counter with my knees knocking, asking the staff what can I buy that won't piss off the control freak liberal public and liberal court system -too- much...?

Yes, I know it's easier to bend over and keep giving up more and more to the anti's. I've met many shooters that love C-68 and would love to ban all handguns and semi-auto long guns. For me, cowering in fear over the colour of my guns or my scope mount is too much for me to worry about in this short life I have.

(Imo. If you want to ban yourself from buying anything other than single shot wood duck guns, have at it.)
 
manbearpig is right, if you're on a shotgun budget, you probably don't have the coin to pay for an attorney to keep you out of jail for shooting an home invader.

Some folks have missed the point. There's no sense worrying about the legal side of the situation until AFTER YOU HAVE SURVIVED IT!!

The outcome of who lives and who doesn't is within your control. The legal system is not. Focus on what you can change, not what you can't.

TDC
 
yes.
and a plain wood-stocked shorty - as long as it fits you and you are familiar with it - will work just as well (and probably better) at shooting home-invaders as this:
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ironically the simple wood-stocked 870Ps have served police departments well for half a century.

so why set yourself up for legal headaches when you can avoid most of them by just picking a gun that wont cause all the sheeple to gasp and cringe in horror when the prosecutor inevitably holds it up in front of a courtroom.

(Imo. If you want to ban yourself from buying anything other than single shot wood duck guns, have at it.)

cause thats what im recommending, right? :slap:

were all (at least 'relatively', in Canada) free people so we can all do whatever we choose. i am just putting my opinion out there because some people might not have realized that unlike the US, if you ever do end up shooting a home invader the gun that you do it with is going to come under some heavy scrutiny. in our country full of knee-jerk liberals who have heart palpitations at the sight of a pistol gripped shotgun - your gun, when it is held up as Exhibit A in front of a courtroom, will play a huge part in how these people will perceive you.
so if some people didnt realise this - now they know, and can make their own choice based on their own priorities.

i am not saying DO NOT BUILD ZOMBIE GUNS - hell, theyre fun to build. but if you have to shoot a home invader you might be better off grabbing something a little more sheeple-friendly from your safe than the above pic. have fun explaining to the prosecution that you actually set up the above gun for the inevitable zombocalypse, and not deliberately as a 'home defense' -- which is what the prosecution will be saying: that you build this with the intent to shoot people and were chomping at the bit to do it. i can already hear the 'look at all these lights, lasers and pistol grips - there is no legitimate hunting purpose for such modifications'.

every time someone posts something like this, however, you get the gung-ho internet heros telling them that they are liberal pussies or somehow second-class gun owners. its easy to talk smack on the internet -- how many guys have posted here saying 'if the cops come to take my handguns away there is no way i am going to just hand them over'. uhh, yeah - you will. when a half dozen RCMP officers in flak vests show up on your doorstep demanding that you hand them over, unless you are a complete moron you will comply.
its easy to talk %$#! on the net, but if you have a family and intend to keep your gun rights then you should take these kinds of things into consideration when making your choices. if you dont care about these things, thats your choice -- neither of us is 'wrong' or 'right', we just have different priorities.
 
cause thats what im recommending, right?

Firstly, I was just taking the other extreme to show that people can do whatever they want, I'm just saying how I view things. I wasn't telling anyone what to do in their own life.

Second, none of my post was directed -at- you, I was just giving my general opinion, that's why I said "Imo".:wave:
 
I don't have a home defense gun. I have a PC gun (Predator Control) and I'm in an area where there are no local shooting restrictions so I can keep a gun out.



This is what I have as well. A "PC" gun. It's usually out and about with me all the time on weekends, and is kept handy in the house when I'm at home. Lots of critters where I live. Mostly 4 legged... :D

'Rinco HP9 would be (is) my choice. I've tarted mine up a bit because I use it for several things besides varmint and predator control, but the size is great for home defense as well.
 
Hey Manbearpig you have made me change my mind about turning my 870 into a tactical "home defense / zoombie killing" machine your arguments make alot of sense. Not that I will be, willing be, in a court room trying to defend myself but it might hlp if the gun looked a little more "friendly" and less "killer"
 
ah, but my intention wasnt to try and turn people off of zombie guns entirely :)
zombie guns are a lot of fun to build and plink with.

i was just trying to say that if you are putting together a purpose-built 'home defense' gun, you make it a little more sheeple friendly.

the beauty of shotguns is that you can get used wingmasters, grizzlies, 870 expresses, mossbergs, etc for $300 - and aftermarket goodies are affordable and plentiful - so theres no reason you cant have more than one.
 
Mossi Maverick 88 for ~$200 or Winchester Defender for ~$270.
First has 18,5" bbl and the other 18"bbl, both are 12ga, Winchester has crome-plated barrel.
 
Hey Manbearpig you have made me change my mind about turning my 870 into a tactical "home defense / zoombie killing" machine your arguments make alot of sense. Not that I will be, willing be, in a court room trying to defend myself but it might hlp if the gun looked a little more "friendly" and less "killer"

You're wasting your time. The "look" of the firearm will make no difference in the court room.

TDC
 
You're wasting your time. The "look" of the firearm will make no difference in the court room.

TDC

The look of the firearm will also most likely be lost on the the jury when they learn about the five or ten other guns you have in your closet.
 
During high school law we had to spend time in court as part of the course. The trail we witnessed was a murder trial in Brandon. Some guy stabbed his gf with a hunting knife. The crown implied that he had bought this knife just to kill people that if he flew into a rage he would have used a steak knife... go figure maybe people really would care about wood stocks.
 
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