Hand grenade training advice
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Well then, let's settle this once and for all
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/11/frag-out-408888.html
Coyote Ugly
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
If this thread was about taking a crap, would there be 7 pages about it?
Don't Worry, be Happy ... and don't crap your pants when you pull the pin!
fat tony
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I think they got rid of the V-40's due to the characteristic that they could get 'lost in your hand' a lot easier than the C-13 (which absolutely could not get lost in your hand). I had heard there was at least one training fatality with them in CDN svc; It might have been back in the 1970's. -On the plus side, you could carry way more of them than the C-13.
Weight: V-40: 4.8 ounces
Weight: C-13: 14 ounces.
I've got to get to bed now. G'night.
Weight: V-40: 4.8 ounces
Weight: C-13: 14 ounces.
I've got to get to bed now. G'night.
Glen Valour
CGN Regular
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- Winnipeg, MB
I know that my training is well dated but I'm pretty sure that there was more than one instance of people "losing" their grenades pulling them away from the safety pin and that SOP became to hold the grenade firmly and pull the pin away from the grenade to prevent this "unhealthy" occurrence.
I don't have the DND pam but FM3-23.30 states "(3) Grasp the pull ring with the index or middle finger of your nonthrowing hand. Remove the safety pin with a pulling and twisting motion. If the tactical situation permits, observe the safety pin’s removal."
Perhaps someone with current instruction can clarify.
well marines are DIFFERENT- i think it's old school vs new school- so what happens when you throw a wp? if they even use them anymore?- you hear WILLIE PETE?- takes too long to call and if you call white out, some bugger's going to think smoke-GRENADE is grenade, and smoke is smoke- the guys of today are too complicated
Then check out P.113 5(b)(3). But you are probably right about this old school vs new school thing.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=eTb...X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#PPA113,M1
Did I hear you say 'Pop Smoke' ?
Quote: "I have had to deal with a couple of misfires while blasting. Not for the faint of heart. Running like a mother*ucker was a part of the SOP as I recall."
Those who know me also know that sprinting is not one of my strengths.
One of my jobs(a long time ago) was destroying ordanace that needed blowing, like rocket motors that had been dropped, etc. One of our guys had an old car that was not licensed for the road. He used it to run around the base. We blew stuff in a field on the far side of a runway.
One day three of us unloaded a trunk full of rocket motors and parachute flares (20 pounders) and stacked them neatly. A few half pound blocks of TNT and a fuse were used to blow them.
We lit the 5 minute fuse and walked casually back to the car. It did not start right away. After 10 feet it stalled and died. Then we looked at the stop watch and started sprinting. I have never been faster.
Those who know me also know that sprinting is not one of my strengths.
One of my jobs(a long time ago) was destroying ordanace that needed blowing, like rocket motors that had been dropped, etc. One of our guys had an old car that was not licensed for the road. He used it to run around the base. We blew stuff in a field on the far side of a runway.
One day three of us unloaded a trunk full of rocket motors and parachute flares (20 pounders) and stacked them neatly. A few half pound blocks of TNT and a fuse were used to blow them.
We lit the 5 minute fuse and walked casually back to the car. It did not start right away. After 10 feet it stalled and died. Then we looked at the stop watch and started sprinting. I have never been faster.
That's for shootin behind me!
It's 9mm and .38 Special down here. Wear the level of armour for what the BG's use.
I used to bush blast with 1m safety fuse. Generally burned 2:21. We'd set up the round. light the fuse and WALK away. The prospector who taught us to blast told us that a good blaster walks away from his round (it's safer, less chance of falling etc.). After 1:30 we'd find a tree wider than our shoulders and put it between us and the round for protection (get as close as you can to the tree and stick your hardhat against the trunk). The fun starts when you get that rare misfire. With a 1m safety fuse misfire we'd wait 30-40 minutes. Then slowly, staying as low as we could, we'd go back towards the round, staying behind cover as much as possible. When we were as close as we could get to the misfire with cover, we'd pop just our heads up and look for the smoke of the burning fuse. If we didn't see any smoke then whoever lit the fuse sucked it up and ran like a mother*ucker to the round and removed the blasting cap from the stick powder. Nothing to it. Easy peasy. It really motivated you to do a good job hooking up the round so that it didn't misfire in the first place.
Then check out P.113 5(b)(3). But you are probably right about this old school vs new school thing.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=eTb...X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#PPA113,M1
Did I hear you say 'Pop Smoke' ?
when i was in" poppa smoke " was for calling somthing else in- smoke out was a round for the blooper- best one i ever heard for a comeback was juandice johnny- it was usually goofy grape or something else- but we didn't use frag grenades much - usually the blooper did a better job with far less chance of collateral damage- as for the marines vs the army issue, if it's a good procedure, all three services ( 4 if you count the various guards) mirror each other - if i dig out my old tm, i'll probably find something about a vebal warning as well- or maybe not , as we were NOT a seen and heard unit-turns out i was right- no verbal given, but bravo flag? must be shown- like i even know what that is
as far as good things go, it's usually in the marine recon first, then it filters down to the army after about 5 years
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All this advice on throwing grenades and not one person has mentioned the single most important thing about throwing a grenade.
Hold the thing so that the spoon is turned toward the palm of your hand. Otherwise the spoon fly's off as soon as you pull the pin which is somewhat alarming.
How NOT to throw a grenade http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_6IAmUaxs
Hold the thing so that the spoon is turned toward the palm of your hand. Otherwise the spoon fly's off as soon as you pull the pin which is somewhat alarming.
How NOT to throw a grenade http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_6IAmUaxs
