best .270 moose round
- Thread starter bruno
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Jack O'COnnors comments (and I have the same book) are dependent TOTALLy on the bullets of the day..
His 130gr bullets where made similarly to the 180gr .308 caliber bullets of the day..Basiclaly, not so good for deep penetration on heavy bone when fired realy fast. And the .270 *was* really fast...
JOC woudl be pissing all over himself if he saw what a .270 could do with a TSX bullet...I guarrantee he would suggest it was a perfect moose/grizz cartridge!
His 130gr bullets where made similarly to the 180gr .308 caliber bullets of the day..Basiclaly, not so good for deep penetration on heavy bone when fired realy fast. And the .270 *was* really fast...
JOC woudl be pissing all over himself if he saw what a .270 could do with a TSX bullet...I guarrantee he would suggest it was a perfect moose/grizz cartridge!
This was my original post...
You see where I wrote....
The .270 will work....
but there ARE better choices.
Never ONCE did I say it WOULDN'T work.
Yes, and your second post said,
We are simply presenting that to say "NEED" is a huge presumption. It is abundantly evident that you have never hunted grizzly bear, or if you have you have never actually seen one killed.
Most grizzlies kills are without incident, and therefore don't make much of a story. You mostly hear about the ones that keep soaking up 250 gr A-Frames or 300 gr Partitions and keep getting up, one after another.
.....and that can be exciting, indeed!
Ted
We are simply presenting that to say "NEED" is a huge presumption. It is abundantly evident that you have never hunted grizzly bear, or if you have you have never actually seen one killed.
Most grizzlies kills are without incident, and therefore don't make much of a story. You mostly hear about the ones that keep soaking up 250 gr A-Frames or 300 gr Partitions and keep getting up, one after another.
.....and that can be exciting, indeed!
Ted
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- Vancouver Island BC
That has to be the dumbest advice I ever heard,I have killed more moose with a .270 shooting 130 grain bullets than you will ever see. I can't believe how uninformed some people are and actually pass on their ill advice.
is the 270 ideal for moose? no, is it capable? absolutely, and even more so today when loaded with a premium bullet that will hold together and penetrate. I would shoot a Barnes 130 or 140 gr TSX, Federal loads the 130 gr TSX in their premium ammo. Keep the shots to inside 350-400 yards and place them right, the moose will be down and you will have alot of work to do.
I would stay away from soft bullets like Bergers, Ballistic tips, sierra boat tails, etc unless you're willing to hold out for a broadside rib shot.
I would stay away from soft bullets like Bergers, Ballistic tips, sierra boat tails, etc unless you're willing to hold out for a broadside rib shot.
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
Given the right bullet and powder selection the .270 will outperform the 7mm-08, 6.5x55,7x57,.308 and other similar calibers. The 30-06 150 grain and the .270 150 grain can be loaded to where they are almost identical. And with that the .270 will usually give a little flatter shot.
So to say it is lacking in shocking power is to say the 30-06 is a marginal moose gun too........
So to say it is lacking in shocking power is to say the 30-06 is a marginal moose gun too........
given good bullets and identical placement, I think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference looking at the carcass of moose shot with a 6.5x55, 7x57, 270, 7-08, 280, 308, 30-06, 300 Mag
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- Northeast Ontario
I dont' recall saying it was ideal or quoting Jack saying so.........My point is that its capable as he and others have proven it over and over again.
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- Lakes District BC
I wait till hes drinking water and shoot him in the nutz, that way he gulps up 40 gallons and drowns himself in the aftershock
and for the record i no longer own any magnum rifles 1 left in the house is my 17 year olds 270wsm as of next hunting season I will be shooting a 308 for everything I hunt
I have wondered about using a chain saw on a moose. I have a little Stihl I use for limbing that I thought of taking on a hunt. But I was worried about the chain oil lube spoiling meat.
It ocurred to me I could fill the chain oiler resevoir with olive oil and cut some wood to clean all the old oil out. Anyone done this or have any thoughts?
It ocurred to me I could fill the chain oiler resevoir with olive oil and cut some wood to clean all the old oil out. Anyone done this or have any thoughts?
Yes that works fine, just clean up the saw. Cutting up a moose usually doesn't even need chain lube, as the fat keeps everything lubed. But using olive oil, vegoil etc works fine, too.
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- Lakes District BC
works great , so does a rechargable sawsall, only downfall as we just learned and being our first time with a sawsall is the batteries dont last verry long on a moose so you need a spare and a inverter or power source to recharge them
Yup, seen chainsaws used as you described and more recently, reciprocating saws and I think the reciprocating saw does a better job but power is an issue. Truthfully, I've never seen the need for a saw at all. It's easy to take the four quarters off with a folding pocket knife and then you can remove the remainder of the meat from the carcass with the same knife. I don't even gut a moose any more. A small hand saw or axe will easily pop the ribs off and you have no fuss or muss and the same amount of meat without spilling the guts and getting bone dust all over your meat. From time of shooting to loaded and ready to go is under two hours with two people with sharp knives. Once I was shown the gutless method, I've never done it any other way on large ungulates.
We really like the chain saw... I cleaned this one really well before the hunt with hot water and soap and rinsed it well... then dried it in the sun... I use a little Mazolla oil to lube it before cutting into the moose. After the hunt I clean it real well again and remove all the lube as it gets a bit gummy in a year... I just use this on moose.
I wait till hes drinking water and shoot him in the nutz, that way he gulps up 40 gallons and drowns himself in the aftershock
and for the record i no longer own any magnum rifles 1 left in the house is my 17 year old 270wsm as of next hunting season I will be shooting a 308 for everything I hunt
I agree with you, I will not own another magnum cartridge if I can help it. What is the point? All they do is kick like hell, and damage meat second to nothing.
In Africa (South) where I come from, the 303 has killed more animals than anything else - second and not too far behind is the 7x57 - “Karamojo” Bell killed more than two thousand elephants in his life time - one thousand of these with the little 7x57. not that I'm suggesting you go and blast Elie's with a 7mm now - only a dumb arse would do that - Bell knew what he was doing.
The bullsh1t that a Moose can't be killed with a .270 - or it is not the recommended thing do - is pure unadulterated crap. I have taken way tougher animals than a moose with a .270 loaded with 150 grain Partition bullets.
I have seen the magnum boys struggle with their high velocity rounds on heavy boned animals, where as the old slow (2300 fps) partitions fired from 7x57's rifles have penetrated deeply, and killed where the magnums have failed as dismally as a wet fart.
No, You boys can continue in your delusions - I will stick to the good old fashioned meat takers thank you.
BTW - I have seen a few lions dropped with a .270
Here is one - a lovely Kalahari mangy bugger ....... he now keeps an eye on the fridge to see who is taking the last beer without refiling!
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