what is the different ???
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pointandshoot
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2 inches
So will it almost be the same distance ?
Your #### won't fall off if... oh, wait, this isn't the Main Battle Rifle forum, and we're talking shotguns, not Norinco M-14's 
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From what I understand, the difference should be minimal; you'll get a slightly longer sighting radius with 28", and the 28" might swing a little smoother, and the 26" might be a little lighter and handier and the balance would be slightly more to the rear, but I doubt that I could really tell the difference, personally (some of the more experienced shotgunners here probably can).
Handle both, see what you think.
.From what I understand, the difference should be minimal; you'll get a slightly longer sighting radius with 28", and the 28" might swing a little smoother, and the 26" might be a little lighter and handier and the balance would be slightly more to the rear, but I doubt that I could really tell the difference, personally (some of the more experienced shotgunners here probably can).
Handle both, see what you think.
roger. your velocity will suffer , but the pattern will remain the same.
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The longer the barrel, the more accurate your shots will be based on the fact that the beads are placed so far apart. That makes for added accuracy.
It'll be a little tougher getting on target with a longer barrel as.... well it's longer and the beads are spaced further thus it takes more time.
You'll get much better velocity as the powder will have a way better chance to burn completely in the longer barrels while still under pressure and pushing the charge.
In any shottie when the charge goes off, the shot tries to settle in the rear of the wad obviously very quickly.
When it is shot from the shorter barrels the shot often does not have enough time to settle completely into the wad and thus exits a little more sloppy than it's longer counterparts.
This is why i don't hunt with the 12" barrel (well unless it's a 25' shot on a charging bear that is) Easy acquisition
It'll be a little tougher getting on target with a longer barrel as.... well it's longer and the beads are spaced further thus it takes more time.
You'll get much better velocity as the powder will have a way better chance to burn completely in the longer barrels while still under pressure and pushing the charge.
In any shottie when the charge goes off, the shot tries to settle in the rear of the wad obviously very quickly.
When it is shot from the shorter barrels the shot often does not have enough time to settle completely into the wad and thus exits a little more sloppy than it's longer counterparts.
This is why i don't hunt with the 12" barrel (well unless it's a 25' shot on a charging bear that is) Easy acquisition
if you could find two perfectly matched barrels (bore, forcing cone, and choke constriction) and identical loads then yes. the constriction would be the same, thus pattern would be the same. there may be subtle differences due to velocity, but you'd never notice them.
the pattern is a "cone" of pellets expanding outward from the muzzle. providing muzzle distance to target was identical, the paterns would be Identical.
does a 30" rifle barrel shoot farther then a 20" rifle barrel?
if someone wants to send me a 12" barrel threaded for rem chokes I'd be happy to test this theory, off work for a bit and have nothing but time to kill
In a 28" versus a 26" I doubt that at that point the extra 2" is going to make a significant difference...
I just did a little more research on the subject and apparently if the barrel is over 15" it should have no effect on pattern. Apparently a barrel under 15"s cannot stabilize the wad well enough. This is with shot. I don't know about slug's.if you could find two perfectly matched barrels (bore, forcing cone, and choke constriction) and identical loads then yes. the constriction would be the same, thus pattern would be the same. there may be subtle differences due to velocity, but you'd never notice them.
the pattern is a "cone" of pellets expanding outward from the muzzle. providing muzzle distance to target was identical, the paterns would be Identical.
does a 30" rifle barrel shoot farther then a 20" rifle barrel?
if someone wants to send me a 12" barrel threaded for rem chokes I'd be happy to test this theory, off work for a bit and have nothing but time to kill
Mike Oxbig
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I pulled this bit out of..... Well where else.. WIKI dictionary.
[edit] Barrel length
Shotguns generally have longer barrels than modern rifles. Unlike rifles, however, the long shotgun barrel is not for ballistic purposes; shotgun shells use small powder charges in large diameter bores, and this leads to very low muzzle pressures (see internal ballistics) and very little velocity change with increasing barrel length. According to Remington, modern powder in a shotgun burns completely in 25 to 36 cm barrels.
Since shotguns are generally used for shooting at small, fast moving targets, it is important to lead the target by firing slightly ahead of the target, so that when the shot reaches the range of the target, the target will have moved into the pattern. On uphill shooting, this means to shoot above the target. Conversely, on downhill shooting, this means to shoot below the target, which is somewhat counterintuitive for many beginning hunters. Of course, depending on the barrel length, the amount of lead employed will vary for different barrel lengths, and must be learned by experience.
Shotguns made for close ranges, where the angular speed of the targets is great (such as skeet or upland bird hunting) tend to have shorter barrels, around 24 to 28 inches (610 to 710 mm). Shotguns for longer range shooting, where angular speeds are less (trap shooting; quail, pheasant, and waterfowl hunting) tend to have longer barrels, 28 to 34 inches (860 mm). The longer barrels have more inertia, and will therefore swing more slowly but more steadily. The short, low inertia barrels swing faster, but are less steady. These lengths are for pump or semi-auto shotguns; break open guns have shorter overall lengths for the same barrel length, and so will use longer barrels. The break open design saves between 9 and 15 cm (3.5 and 6 inches) in overall length, but in most cases pays for this by having two barrels, which adds weight at the muzzle, and so usually only adds a couple of centimetres. Barrels for shotguns have been getting longer as modern steels and production methods make the barrels stronger and lighter; a longer, lighter barrel gives the same inertia for less overall weight.
Shotguns for use against larger, slower targets generally have even shorter barrels. Small game shotguns, for hunting game like rabbits and squirrels, or shotguns for use with buckshot for deer, are often 56 to 61 cm (22 to 24 inches).
Shotguns intended for all-round hunting are a compromise, of course, but a 72 to 74 cm (28-29 inch) barrel pump-action 12-gauge shotgun with a modified choke can serve admirably for use as one-gun intended for general all-round hunting of small-game such as quails, rabbits, pheasants, doves, and squirrels in semi-open wooded or farmland areas in many parts of the eastern US (Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee) where dense brush is less of a hindrance and the ability to have more reach is important. For hunting in dense brush, shorter barrel lengths are often preferred when hunting the same types of game.
[edit] Barrel length
Shotguns generally have longer barrels than modern rifles. Unlike rifles, however, the long shotgun barrel is not for ballistic purposes; shotgun shells use small powder charges in large diameter bores, and this leads to very low muzzle pressures (see internal ballistics) and very little velocity change with increasing barrel length. According to Remington, modern powder in a shotgun burns completely in 25 to 36 cm barrels.
Since shotguns are generally used for shooting at small, fast moving targets, it is important to lead the target by firing slightly ahead of the target, so that when the shot reaches the range of the target, the target will have moved into the pattern. On uphill shooting, this means to shoot above the target. Conversely, on downhill shooting, this means to shoot below the target, which is somewhat counterintuitive for many beginning hunters. Of course, depending on the barrel length, the amount of lead employed will vary for different barrel lengths, and must be learned by experience.
Shotguns made for close ranges, where the angular speed of the targets is great (such as skeet or upland bird hunting) tend to have shorter barrels, around 24 to 28 inches (610 to 710 mm). Shotguns for longer range shooting, where angular speeds are less (trap shooting; quail, pheasant, and waterfowl hunting) tend to have longer barrels, 28 to 34 inches (860 mm). The longer barrels have more inertia, and will therefore swing more slowly but more steadily. The short, low inertia barrels swing faster, but are less steady. These lengths are for pump or semi-auto shotguns; break open guns have shorter overall lengths for the same barrel length, and so will use longer barrels. The break open design saves between 9 and 15 cm (3.5 and 6 inches) in overall length, but in most cases pays for this by having two barrels, which adds weight at the muzzle, and so usually only adds a couple of centimetres. Barrels for shotguns have been getting longer as modern steels and production methods make the barrels stronger and lighter; a longer, lighter barrel gives the same inertia for less overall weight.
Shotguns for use against larger, slower targets generally have even shorter barrels. Small game shotguns, for hunting game like rabbits and squirrels, or shotguns for use with buckshot for deer, are often 56 to 61 cm (22 to 24 inches).
Shotguns intended for all-round hunting are a compromise, of course, but a 72 to 74 cm (28-29 inch) barrel pump-action 12-gauge shotgun with a modified choke can serve admirably for use as one-gun intended for general all-round hunting of small-game such as quails, rabbits, pheasants, doves, and squirrels in semi-open wooded or farmland areas in many parts of the eastern US (Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee) where dense brush is less of a hindrance and the ability to have more reach is important. For hunting in dense brush, shorter barrel lengths are often preferred when hunting the same types of game.
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