270...can't bang flop?
- Thread starter sealhunter
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- Location
- AB foothills
Buds it is all internet bull####. There are a ton of people that will read something on a forum and take it as gospel. These are the people that fall for gun mag/show marketing gags that say "the (enter newest cal here) is the end all be all" blah blah blah...they probably haven't shot a .270 or even hunted at all.
As for the five that said that the .270 is not capable to kill quickly probably can't shoot in the first place.
As for the .270, it will works well on deer, elk, moose, bear (no matter what people say) etc...A great old cal with lots of bullet weights to choose from.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I've got some experience with the .270, but it is not a favorite of mine. The fact is though, if you can't get it done with a .270 (or just about anything else built on the .30/06 case) it reflects more on you than it does on the cartridge. The .270 is available with a selection of expanding bullets that are heavy enough to ensure deep penetration and produce large wound channels on big game, high enough velocity to ensure a flat trajectory, and moderate enough recoil to allow good marksmanship from anyone with an understanding of the fundamentals of shooting. If your .270 doesn't shoot, it needs a visit to the gunsmith or you need more range time. If your .270 bullet doesn't put down a big game animal with authority, its time to study game anatomy because you're shooting at the wrong end.
Sometimes things don't go the way we would like when we drop the hammer on a game animal, and I suppose it is human nature to look askew at the rifle or cartridge when this occurs. Scopes can get out of adjustment, the game can move just as you shoot, a gust of wind can move your bullet out of the kill zone, sometimes a bullet can hit a branch that was not visible, and sometime a bullet can just plain fail. When things go wrong it is seldom the rifle or the cartridge's fault, particularly a rifle and cartridge that has been proven many times. More often than not, it was the nut behind the trigger that wasn't screwed on tight enough.
Sometimes things don't go the way we would like when we drop the hammer on a game animal, and I suppose it is human nature to look askew at the rifle or cartridge when this occurs. Scopes can get out of adjustment, the game can move just as you shoot, a gust of wind can move your bullet out of the kill zone, sometimes a bullet can hit a branch that was not visible, and sometime a bullet can just plain fail. When things go wrong it is seldom the rifle or the cartridge's fault, particularly a rifle and cartridge that has been proven many times. More often than not, it was the nut behind the trigger that wasn't screwed on tight enough.
A buddy of mine (who is an excellent shot/hunter) shot his only grizzly @ about 200 yards up hill on a slide using his 270 Win that he has hunted with from when he was a kid.
He had used this rifle to shoot almost every game animals he has ever taken including 5 or 6 greater than full curl rams, more that his share of 6 point bull elk and moose, dozens of deer and black bears.
He told me his comment to his buddy that was hunting with him when the bear finally stopped at their feet was "I think I want a bigger gun"...
He now packs a 375RUM when he is hunting in grizzly country...
He had used this rifle to shoot almost every game animals he has ever taken including 5 or 6 greater than full curl rams, more that his share of 6 point bull elk and moose, dozens of deer and black bears.
He told me his comment to his buddy that was hunting with him when the bear finally stopped at their feet was "I think I want a bigger gun"...
He now packs a 375RUM when he is hunting in grizzly country...
I have a good friend who killed quite a large grizzly with one shot using his 270. He was hunting caribou when the bear appeared less than 100 yd away. He never even hesitated, just got into a good shooting position and waxed the bear with a 130 gr partition, low behind the foreleg.
The whole deal was over in about 30 seconds.
Ted
The whole deal was over in about 30 seconds.
Ted
I have a good friend who killed quite a large grizzly with one shot using his 270. He was hunting caribou when the bear appeared less than 100 yd away. He never even hesitated, just got into a good shooting position and waxed the bear with a 130 gr partition, low behind the foreleg.
The whole deal was over in about 30 seconds.
Ted
I wonder how far a bear could go in 30 seconds?
I have had piss poor results from the .270 so I sold mine.
Every deer I shot got away wounded. I dont know what the problem was, I did just like old Gerald told me. "hold just in front of the back leg and let er go"
Or was that behind the front leg???? Oh, well. The .270 sucks anyways.
Every deer I shot got away wounded. I dont know what the problem was, I did just like old Gerald told me. "hold just in front of the back leg and let er go"
Or was that behind the front leg???? Oh, well. The .270 sucks anyways.
Chopperdoctor
CGN Regular
- Location
- Chinook Country, up wind of Calgary.
Ever heard of a fella by the name of Jack O'Connor? He did a bit of hunting in his time, and killed a couple of critters with the .270. Even wrote a few stories about it. Look him up on the net. I doubt you'll find anyone else, living or dead, who had more hands-on experience with the .270 Winchester.
My 270 served me as well as any cartridge could!
Still own it, do not use it much anymore, but will never sell it. Not the biggest fan of .277 projectiles, kinda caught between 2 pretty good ones the .264 and .284 however the .277 is a close third.
They will do all what is asked of, thay have for me anyway. I would not be affraid to shoot a big animal, Bear moose, what ever with it.
Still own it, do not use it much anymore, but will never sell it. Not the biggest fan of .277 projectiles, kinda caught between 2 pretty good ones the .264 and .284 however the .277 is a close third.
They will do all what is asked of, thay have for me anyway. I would not be affraid to shoot a big animal, Bear moose, what ever with it.
Is this a problem is Sask?
Like the land where you can watch your dog run away for 3 days.
Where the bears live, one jump and they're gone. I see 3-5 a day at work just going into camp for supper. No grizzlies though.
- Location
- Southern MB
Grizzly bear can go 1207 feet in 30 seconds according to this:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_fast_can_a_grizzly_bear_run
and this:
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/grizzly-bear.html
Calculation:
109 yards in 6 seconds = 327 feet
24 seconds remaining, at 25 MPH
25MPH * 5280 = 132,000 Feet per hour (FPH)
132,000 FPH / 3600 seconds in an hour = 36.66 FPS
24 seconds remaining * 36.66 FPS + 327 = 1206.84 Feet in 30 seconds.
Conclusion, hitting 'em real hard through the part that holds em up is a good thing. The damn thing can do 2 1/2 round trips from 109 yards in 30 seconds, clobbering you everytime.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Typical small man syndrome...
Same old story. Little guy's gotta have a big gun and a big truck to show how tough he is. Meanwhile, the average hunter who doesn't flinch behind his .270 can actually fire as many rounds as he wants in one sitting at the range without disclocating his shoulder while working up a tight group. Therefore, reasonably taking down any big game animal based on shot placement alone is then possible... Imagine that!
Furthermore, mule deer hunters know that some mulies are tougher than 2 dollar steaks (and I don't mean their meat) and just won't drop down right away no matter how good a hit you put on them.
Having said all that, anyone who claims that .270 is inadequate is a small man in my book...
Same old story. Little guy's gotta have a big gun and a big truck to show how tough he is. Meanwhile, the average hunter who doesn't flinch behind his .270 can actually fire as many rounds as he wants in one sitting at the range without disclocating his shoulder while working up a tight group. Therefore, reasonably taking down any big game animal based on shot placement alone is then possible... Imagine that!
Furthermore, mule deer hunters know that some mulies are tougher than 2 dollar steaks (and I don't mean their meat) and just won't drop down right away no matter how good a hit you put on them.
Having said all that, anyone who claims that .270 is inadequate is a small man in my book...
