Home defence For my Wife

You guys are all crazy there is no way your not getting charged if you shoot someone I don't care what anyone says... He better have a knife be 6'5 ,drunk and you better have 20 wittiness and the whole thing on camera to get away with it. I'm not saying don't defend yourself I'm just saying be prepared for consequences of are stupid laws after you do..

And a rem 870 (18.5 inch) 12 gage with 2 3/4 low recoil 00 buck is what you need....NO RIFLE OR HAND GUN CALIBERS... you still have to aim with a shotgun but its alot more forgiving and it stops anything out there....Its reliable, its safe for neighbors and it packs a hell of a punch, also you can carry 7 rounds or 9 rounds if you choose a mossberg...

the low-recoil shells don't have much kick at all your wife will be just fine and don't worry about multiply people like others here seem to think ....your not going to war... most intruders will run at the sound of a shotgun racking and someone screaming at them like a mad man never mind have multiply guys watching each other get shot and still advancing... THATS JUST CRAZINESS

heres a link to the ammo

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforcement/catalog/shotdetail.aspx?symbol=RA12005&bn=2&use=1&gauge=12

Target sports center a cgn Sponsored Dealer here has more then you will ever need of the stuff
 
Well I say if your wife is happy shooting the .22LR and not happy with the others, then your choice is made. There is a test a gentlemen did at 300yards and every single round of .22LR went completely through a frozen turkey wearing denim and two other layers. 1 .22 round might not be "very lethal", but anyone with a handfull of little 22 cal holes in their body will go into shock immediately, or just plain die. Your wife can pull a trigger 5-10 times happily, or be too scared to fire one round of any larger calibre.

Get a nice Doberman named Destroyer, and don't worry about the guns man. If you do, then just buy her her own 10/22 and teach her how to become a battle babe. Thats what Im doing with my gal.
 
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Guerrilla said:
you still have to aim with a shotgun but its alot more forgiving
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this is a 00 buck 'pattern' from a cylinder bore 18.5" barrel at 12 feet, a typical home defense range unless you are donald trump.
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its about 2.5" across.

i would hardly call that 'a lot more forgiving'. if you miss with a rifle, you will most likely miss with a shotgun as well.
 
The fist rule of defence is "have a gun" the second rule is make sure it will work, the third rule have ammo for it. Arm her with something she can use, and don't be overly concerned with the calibre. far better a .22 she WILL use than a 12 gauge she is too frightened to use. Most perps will quit their intentions at the mere sight of a firearm in the hands of a house owner. Those that don't need the mag emptied in them.
 
Guerrilla said:
You guys are all crazy there is no way your not getting charged if you shoot someone I don't care what anyone says... He better have a knife be 6'5 ,drunk and you better have 20 wittiness and the whole thing on camera to get away with it. I'm not saying don't defend yourself I'm just saying be prepared for consequences of are stupid laws after you do..
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So, get charged. If it is sufficiently obvious you
When you are in a situation where you will be seriously injured or killed, you need to take the appropriate action.
If someone is going to kill you, not getting killed is what you should be worried about.

As far as "getting away with it", you should be able to "get away" with any act that is both legal and reasonable.
To even say "getting away with it" in reference to someone acting in self defense is offensive to me. You have as much right to self defense as you do to breath, or think your own thoughts.
 
Judged by 12 or carried by 6 - seems like an easy choice to me. If I was sure of the threat of grievous bodily injury or death to myself of my family and it was the last resort then I'll opt for the judged by 12 if that is what it comes down to.

Having said that it is unlikely with adequate layers of security, alarm system goes off on entry of the perp, dogs (Doberman and Basenji) go nutz after perp, 911 called etc.

My wife and I discussed this thread last night and it reminded us of the time we lived in a condo in NE Edmonton years ago. Late at night the dog got up and acted strange - no barking but woke me up. I got up and the dog went down stairs very quitely and then al I heard was a low, dangerous growl followed by someone saying f**k and a noise out the back door. Turns out someone had broken in and did not like meeting my doberman. Thats all it took. Back then we did not have guns or kids, but if my wife needed a comfort gun for her the 12 gauge Rem works fine, but between the alarma nd the dogs I doubt she would even get to it before the perp was off running.

For the OP, like others have said, get what she is comfortable with. Personnaly I would stay away from rifles as they have tons more penetration than needed. For us alarm, dogs and shotgun.
 
JoshHanson said:
Well I say if your wife is happy shooting the .22LR and not happy with the others, then your choice is made. There is a test a gentlemen did at 300yards and every single round of .22LR went completely through a frozen turkey wearing denim and two other layers. 1 .22 round might not be "very lethal", but anyone with a handfull of little 22 cal holes in their body will go into shock immediately, or just plain die. Your wife can pull a trigger 5-10 times happily, or be too scared to fire one round of any larger calibre.

Get a nice Doberman named Destroyer, and don't worry about the guns man. If you do, then just buy her her own 10/22 and teach her how to become a battle babe. Thats what Im doing with my gal.
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.22 all the way in a semi.

1. I've seen a caribou downed with a .22 long rifle in one shot, right behind the ear. No fuss. No recoil. Dropped like a sack of sh*t.

2. MASSAD use it by choice and train for two shots to the head.

3. If you remember, President Reagan almost died by some azzhat with a .22 pistol.



There are a host of examples of the lethality of the measly .22.
 
manbearpig said:
get her some ear protection for use on the range.
in a home defense scenario, loud is good.

you should be looking for a tool that can quickly and effectively resolve the confrontation. plinking at a 200lb drugged up badguy in winter clothing with a .22 is not likely to end well for her, and IMO is providing a false sense of security.

i would not like to be shot with a .22, or even an air rifle for that matter - but i have seen countless times how ineffective the .22 can be on even raccoon-sized game and do not think that this should be a consideration for a home defense weapon unless it is literally all you have available. there is a tremendous difference between a .223 and .22lr in power and wound ballistics.

in addition to my .25-06 or .223, i take a .22lr (10/22T) along with me each year i go groundhog hunting as a spare gun and also a loaner for friends who like to come along with us but lack a varmint gun. ill often switch with them to the .22 so theyre not saddled with it the whole time, and they can make some bigger bangs. i consider a .22lr a marginal weapon for even groundhogs - unless you make a headshot, there is a very good chance that it will escape to/down its hole.
yes many animals have been killed with a .22, but many animals have also been killed with an atlatl -- doesnt mean your wife should rely on one to end a confrontation quickly and decisively.

again if its your ONLY choice, then use it. but if you have other choices - such as the OP in this thread - then specifically choosing a .22 would be very unwise.
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I'm not questioning you on the 22LR thought, I agree 100%. But in my case she afraid to the point she'd flinch so bad with the .223 there'd be holes in the ceiling. It's the old "you can lead a horse to water" situation. Some people are not gun friendly, and do not enjoy it. I can ride a Bike, but I haven't in years. Same deal. She's not a range girl, making her shoot something she doesn't want to ain't gonna help.

But anyhow, we are in agreement on the 22LR theory, and it's going to be a beautiful weekend! We should all enjoy it.:)
 
Woodsman said:
.22 all the way in a semi.

1. I've seen a caribou downed with a .22 long rifle in one shot, right behind the ear. No fuss. No recoil. Dropped like a sack of sh*t.

2. MASSAD use it by choice and train for two shots to the head.

3. If you remember, President Reagan almost died by some azzhat with a .22 pistol.



There are a host of examples of the lethality of the measly .22.
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:eek:
there is a huge difference between an assassin firing point blank into someones skull with a .22, or a poacher taking a moose with a .22 headshot, and actually relying on a .22 to quickly and effectively stop an armed threat.

next well be recommending .22lr for bear defense and moose hunting :runaway:
 
I have personally used a .22 to put down cats, dogs, pigs and even full grown cows. But I have seen too many squirrels run off after being hit. That also leaves the problem that it is very likely that you would have to fire multiple times which means you may have to start shooting from a larger distance so you aren't over run. Plus because of high capacity mags if the attacker does reach you and gain controll of the weapon there a still rounds in the mag with which to harm my family. Thats no good. I like the idea of one or two effective shots.
 
A .410 3" has more ft/lbs than a .44 mag and won't go through a perp and kill someone in the next room.#4 shot at 20ft will blow a fist sized hole and not perforate drywall and friendlies living therein.Not a big chance of missing with a shotgun and light recoil......................The isrealies used 9mm bullets with birdshot inside an aluminum jacket for plane hijackings same reason.Stays in target instantly fatal.............Harold
 
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i just picked this up off the EE. factory 18" barreled 20 gauge 870 compact, with a Knoxx spec-ops recoil reducing stock. i figure itll make an ideal lightweight walkaround grouse gun, as well as the perfect gun to give to new shooters - especially women and kids.

if thats not the ideal shotgun for a chick, i dont know what is. it is light, loaded it feels half as heavy as a loaded 12 gauge. feels a lot handier too. takes chokes too, which is a huge plus for me on any shorty barrel.

the fact that its a 20, not a 12, plus the Knoxx stock and proper gun fit should ensure that recoil is light, yet its still powerful enough to put someone down with one shot.

you can buy the gun itself (with regular short LOP stock with spacers so you can adjust LOP from 12" to 13") for around $380 brand new, and order a Knoxx stock for it.
 
and i forgot to add:
mount a REALLY bright light on it. might be a bit more tricky on a 20 than a 12 but in the worst case just use a mount that clamps to the barrel or attach a rail to the forend.
a blinding light is an incredibly effective defensive tool.
 
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manbearpig said:
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i just picked this up off the EE. factory 18" barreled 20 gauge 870 compact, with a Knoxx spec-ops recoil reducing stock. i figure itll make an ideal lightweight walkaround grouse gun, as well as the perfect gun to give to new shooters - especially women and kids.

if thats not the ideal shotgun for a chick, i dont know what is. it is light, loaded it feels half as heavy as a loaded 12 gauge. feels a lot handier too. takes chokes too, which is a huge plus for me on any shorty barrel.

the fact that its a 20, not a 12, plus the Knoxx stock and proper gun fit should ensure that recoil is light, yet its still powerful enough to put someone down with one shot.

you can buy the gun itself (with regular short LOP stock with spacers so you can adjust LOP from 12" to 13") for around $380 brand new, and order a Knoxx stock for it.
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Problem with that gun is it is black and scary looking, I wouldn't want someone holding that up in front of a jury.
 
ehh, so get the pink one.
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IMO the 'compact jr.' is best because its 1" shorter LOP and 3" shorter barrel.
the regular compacts are 13-14" LOP and 21" barrel as opposed to 12"-13" LOP and 18" barrel.

get a can of pink or orange krylon and spray the stock if youre that worried :p
 
yes, and the first step is fitting her with an appropriate gun with appropriate ammunition - not doing what 90% of macho morons do and hand her your 12gauge loaded with 3" mags and laugh when it knocks her on her ass.

i dont particularly find @$#% like this funny:
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