New Handgun Rip-Offs

mlehtovaara said:
I am a student, that due to circumstance must live on my own and not on res or a student house. You talk from a single perspective. I can't afford to pay 200 - 400 dollars more on a gun thank you. And I made 27,000 last year. I can't imagine how students working minimum wage jobs survive. Anyway, I can only have so many Norinco's. I love em but when I can buy used handguns in the states like Glocks, and Springfields for the same price, I will take advantage.
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Sure, I can handle that.
Thats why this is in my post:

I don't think we as gun enthusiasts should let cost/money be the total end all be all factor that drives our decision to purchase.

I do understand finances are a factor, I am far from weathly myself, I'm just throwing some questions/statements out there to make people think about it a little.
Ultimately, if we buy a new gun from a dealer a portion of that money leaves Canada anyway if we are not buying a gun made in Canada.....however, I want my home dealers to take a piece of that cake first.

Saving money comes at a cost.
 
It's pretty fair to assume that you are paying $100-200 profit when purchasing a gun new from a dealer.

If that's not fair to you, don't buy it.
 
"You ever tried to sell a factory barrel in the US.. Would probably cost more to ship it then the thing is worth...."
I too have bought all my pistols in Canada and am willing to pay a little more for the convienience but I really don't buy the we can't sell the barrel arguement. Every gun retailer in the States and most of the factory sites (Sig,Beretta etc.) sell factory replacement barrels so there is obviously a market for them.
 
There is this guy in Buffalo that will bring one across for $50 and sell you the gun at 20% below American prices. The only catch is you can't ask any questions.

I appreciate people trying to save a dollar, but come on, why take a shot at the few Canadian companies that are still in business so we can have our toys. Most of these companies are the same ones that throw extra money into the CSSA funds to help protect our rights.

If you want to buy elsewhere do so, but don't take shots at friends.
 
Ftaview said:
So it's the distributor that is the reason for the high prices,,,,I see

and you pay "$1,000.000 of insurance paid annually to keep the store open"

how much do you guys make a year if you pay $1,000,000.00 for insurance alone, I didn't realize gun stores made millions per year, maybe I need to look at getting into this business


sorry is that 1 million per year, or 1 thousand per year, your decimal point is confusing
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It's a $1,000,000.00 policy...Einstein :rolleyes:
 
Broker said:
I assume Arms East has the same Colt Distributor as Ellwood. Ellwood says they paid 43% above US retail to their distributor for their COLT Revolvers.

I just bought a HC Colt Special Combat Government .45 from Arms East, a sponsor here.

It retails at Impact Guns (link below) for $1635.99US
I paid $1935CDN at Arms East, a difference of only $300 over retail in the US.

If Arms East claimed the same distributor markup, they would break even at $2338.

You figure it out.
http://armseast.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_28&products_id=132

http://www.impactguns.com/store/098289011688.html
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excuse me, compare aples to apples here....

armseast is an internet retailer who does not maintain a store front or have very many employee's.... frankly for the most part I believe he runs it himself.

Ellwood Epps has a MAJOR storefront store, has people on staff and has to have enough area for parking and so on.....

to compare the two is stupid.... one can run out of a warehouse while the other has to have retail space.

compare Ellwoods prices to something like P&D or frontier etc.... then compare armseast to questar since they are similar buisness.
 
just like to add....

try and get warranty work on your pistol from the dealer if you buy in the USA..... one thing in the canadian firearms industry is that your paying a bit of a premium because the canadian dealers are awesome..... Wolverine, Armseast, TSE, ETC, ETC all stand behind their products and offer no hassle guarantee's.
 
Two businesses that operate in different provinces and have very different business models. AE does not carry a huge amount of inventory nor does he have a store front or employees that I know of. The number employees, their wages and benefits, rent, municipal/provincial taxes and insurance come into play as well. These hidden costs have an impact on pricing and need to be considered. You are also using two different handguns for your comparison and that in itself makes for a weak argument....:stirthepot2:


Broker said:
I assume Arms East has the same Colt Distributor as Ellwood. Ellwood says they paid 43% above US retail to their distributor for their COLT Revolvers.

I just bought a HC Colt Special Combat Government .45 from Arms East, a sponsor here.

It retails at Impact Guns (link below) for $1635.99US
I paid $1935CDN at Arms East, a difference of only $300 over retail in the US.

If Arms East claimed the same distributor markup, they would break even at $2338.

You figure it out.
http://armseast.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_28&products_id=132

http://www.impactguns.com/store/098289011688.html
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Ftaview said:
Hey Einstein

How he wrote it, did not come across that way

that is why I asked he clarify.....


:rolleyes:

and who really cares, my car/house policy covers me for more than that......
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Home/residential policies are very different than a business policy, especially a firearms business. Your reasoning is not sound. Are you an Arts student? :p
 
TIM_COX said:
excuse me, compare aples to apples here....

armseast is an internet retailer who does not maintain a store front or have very many employee's.... frankly for the most part I believe he runs it himself.

Ellwood Epps has a MAJOR storefront store, has people on staff and has to have enough area for parking and so on.....

to compare the two is stupid.... one can run out of a warehouse while the other has to have retail space.

compare Ellwoods prices to something like P&D or frontier etc.... then compare armseast to questar since they are similar buisness.
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We are comparing Colt Distributor cost , not overhead. Ellwood claims an extremely high distributor cost as the reason for the high price of their COLT SAA's, not high overhead.
I bought 2 GLOCKS from Ellwood this year, because they had the best prices for the models I bought. I think they are a great company. I just think they have overpriced this particular gun. They had non nickle ones on for $1500 last year.
 
Springfields have always been expensive on this side of the border . I blame springfield and not the canadian dealers . Juts look at Nighthawk , their guns are only a couple hundreds more then in the states .
 
liberal-hater said:
No, we do not. It's too crowded around these parts now, within 100 miles of the US border. Unless maybe you can force the new imports to live in the far north.
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Nope! Keep stackin' them up down there where it is all warm and cozy, thanks anyway!;)
 
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LTR308 said:
They'd sell for $50-$75 WITH EASE in the USA bringing the overall price down near $400. And that is retail. LEOs are buying this 1K CAD priced firearm for $328. That isn't today's trivia answer.
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LEO's are buying 106mm sub compacts in the US?

There are 106mm sub compacts in the US... Cool...

Why isn't somebody bringing them in.. Rather then Questar having to rebarrel them in the US....

Or are you changing the subject or suggesting that an LEO buy with his discount and then export them to Canada

Show me a place where a used barrel goes for 50-75, yes unfortunately they have had at least one round fired through then and they are fitted to the gun they were in so they are used.. You know that barrels are fitted right.. Factory barrels don't necessarily just drop in..
 
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