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Why the FN drama? Sort things out, get things approved by the government beyond a shadow of a doubt, become a dealer on the books and on CGN and sell the product. It's not a hard concept. Selling the product is preferable to this endless internet BS.
 
j-man said:
I like the guns and even if they're legal, I can't afford them.:redface:

I'm afraid to say anything else. :ninja:
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Non restricted sten ?

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2bad4u2 said:
Frankly, who gives a sh!t. Anyone who has the time and energy necessary to "route out" a suspeced banned poster (or is that poser?) should consider their motives for doing so.

If you don't have an ownership stake in CGN then why should anyone care?
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why??

because it keeps this place civil. ;)

There are rules here and Spencer didn't want to follow them annd then went on to just stiring up #### here.

The mods are doing a good job, and I'm sort of surprised that this thread has not been locked.
 
tiriaq said:
I cannot imagine anyone manufacturing a firearm with an unmarked safety. Or a manufacturer's liability insurance provider allowing an unmarked safety.
The Sten selector is originally marked "A" and "R" for automatic and repetition. Push A for auto, R for semi auto.
As you know, Spencer converts the selector into a safety. Rotate it one way, and the tripping lever is cammed out of contact with the sear, and pulling the trigger will not fire the gun, rotate it back, and the tripping lever can engage the sear. This is no doubt one of the features he intends to patent.
A selector marked A and R which would normally be pushed left and right, but is actually a safety which has to be rotated to engage, but which is unmarked for the safety function would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. Not only should it be marked, it should also be detented, so it cannot be accidentally disengaged.
I have a friend is a retired firearms industry engineer and designer who has testified as an expert witness in over 40 firearms related court cases. I'll run the scenario past him for his opinion.
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"......A chap here in Canada is starting to make some guns, for sale. Small operation, but commercial.
He is using a safety as follows:
There is a 1/2" diameter stud which projects from the trigger mechanism. When rotated, it disengages the trigger from the sear. The trigger can be pulled but nothing happens. The sear is not blocked, the trigger is just disengaged. There are no detents to keep the safety in safe or fire position.
There are no markings to suggest that the stud is a safety, nor how it works. No "safe, no "fire", no arrow to indicate which way it should be rotated.
I have suggested that the design is a legal minefield....".

As I mentionned above, this gentleman is a retired engineer, who spent his career with a major manufacturer. Many folks on CGN have used his designs. He has testified numerous times in court cases as a firearms expert.
Here is his response to my query, text as above:
"What you have described is as you feel; it is bad and he is stupid. He should have a lot of insurance as he will need it...."
 
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He says the sterlings will be a lot cheaper than the genuine sterling police carbines. Apart from not being genuine sterling made guns there is no difference.

But it gets even better ! Not only will they be available as fully finished guns, they will also be available as diy kits with one days work to finish No Licence required.:dancingbanana:

There is a lot of hate, he must have hurt some guys here real bad.:confused:
 
Deckard said:
Price is king. Why the price jump?
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Because he was selling them faster than he could build them. Mick does not control the price, the market does that.

Deckard said:
The Sterling would have to be affordable.
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At what price ?

If you expect something for nothing, nothing is what you will get.

Remember that the ######## guns are hand built one at a time. I have a New Zealand sten that never fails to turn heads at the range, everyone wants to shoot it.


Deckard said:
I don't care what the Police Carbine costs either (which is a rip off). Price is king.
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As with everything else the market determines the price.
 
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