Used batteries and stack of pennies as shotgun slugs ?

I liked that review from Box O truth. I thought the whole idea behind the rock salt was a less than lethal application in the first place. Stinging and bruising were the intention.
 
when we were kids raiding local crab apple trees was regular sport for boys, mostly, and some girls in the fall. one year a certian old timer was fed up with people in his trees at night, so when we hit his tree one saturday night he started yelling he had a shot gun and we'd better git. so off we scrabbled over the fence and into the woods. as the last guy was hopping the fence, BOOM and a yelp like you never heard before, that last guy got a load of rock salt in the lower back, butt and upper thighs it didnt penetrate the jeans and jean jacket he was wearing but man did it leave a bruise pattern.:eek:


that was about 30 yards or so.

dean
 
What brand of battery do you guys think would best for bear defence? Or maybe the silver dimes would be best saved for werewolf/vampire defence??
 
I've always wondered about using nails to load redneck flechette shells. Sadly, since flechette ammo is illegal up here...

I know a guy who fills spent .22 casings with lead and loads them into 10-ga. shells. Says the recoil is, er, stout but they're murder on crows.
 
From GOW:

http://guns.connect.fi/gow/historia5.html


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Von WITZLEBEN-luoti/ shotgun dart




"Shotgun dart", designed by a German or Baltic German nobleman von WITZLEBEN in the turn of 20th Century. (There is at least a legend that he resided in Finland in late 1800s). The first foot-long arrow projectiles were designed in mid-1890s. Some of them were patented, but commercial success of them was poor. Hunters made presumably the arrows of balsa wood rods with wax impregnated cotton cord concentrators for their own use. A rather complicated expanding lead point was cast to the tips of arrows with a mould, patented by von Witzleben.

Arrow was pushed into the bore of shotgun just like a howitzer shell and a driving charge was pushed separately behind it in the cartridge case, loaded with a small blackpowder load and wadding only. (Japanese makers of "ninya" and "samurai" movies use also shotguns - not long bows or even the crossbows - for throwing the arrows with very small powder charges). Von Witzleben's shotgun darts became shorter. This drawn one was for sale still in 1903 in Germany. Longitudinally grooved tail was still of balsawood. A loose projectile was fed into the chamber of "break-loading" shotgun and a driving charge was chambered behind a dart. Muzzle velocity of projectile was slow. It was known as an "Elster-Geschoss" (a "magpie bullet") due to swinging of its tail in flight. Bullet was - however - accurate to ca. 40 meters range and it perforated easily an elk, when hit sideways.





Modernized von Witzleben bullets were chambered into shotguns seated into shells. The cartridge case held a wooden tail and thin over-powder wadding, but the point of a dart (hard lead alloy or cast iron; considerably sub-caliber) extended even from the mouth of non-crimped full length shotsell. These cartridges were shot from break-loader shotgun's one barrel only - and definitely first. Another barrel was loaded with some other kind of cartridge (usually with "Sauposten" canister, seated into the roll-crimped shell). Von Witzleben's dart cartridges were unable to stand recoil of other barrel. Usage in the repeater shotgun was impossible, of course. The earliest Brenneke slug, seated into roll-crimped shell, was therefore an overwhelming competitor.

Some bullets of v. Witzleben's design were futuristic, having a point thorn similar to that of French T.H.V. handgun projectile. Another projectile, with a wadcutter cast iron point, was sold as a "Granaten-Geschoss" ("artillery shell projectile") but, as far as I know, it contained no explosive charge and fuze. It might have lead belts around it's point and base of the cast iron cylinder (like rotation bands of an artillery shell) equipped with a fluted balsa wood tail.
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raks said:
What brand of battery do you guys think would best for bear defence? Or maybe the silver dimes would be best saved for werewolf/vampire defence??
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The closest to a werewolf defense but that's a copper top not silver.

Vamp's - don't know.

What would be the ballistics of an energizer if they keep going and going?
 
bahahaha...this just made my day. As a side note, does anyone know if AManWithAGun is still alive? His last post was the one at the beginning of this thread...
 
forbes/hutton said:
The closest to a werewolf defense but that's a copper top not silver.

Vamp's - don't know.

What would be the ballistics of an energizer if they keep going and going?
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For vampires, you want to freeze a slab of meat and then cut out the bullets from that. Aim for the heart!
 
droid1963 said:
would YOU stick around after being pwned so hard???

AManWithAGun... if you're still here, come back outside and play. You'll get used to it, I promise.
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:agree: You make a very good point, that was my guess also...well that or the initial testing phases of the "Energizer Slug 3000" just didn't quite go according to plan...
 
AManWithAGun said:
Hi,

What do you think of the idea of using used batteries as shotgun slugs ? I looked up diameters online and it seems AAA batteries are good fit for .410, and AA batteries are good fit for 20 or 24 gauge.

Also if you glue a stack of pennies together, it should fit in 10 gauge barrrels. A stack of 10 pennies should give you a 360 grain slug, and if you file the diameter down by 0.6 mm it should fit in 12 gauge barrels.

You have to reload your shotshells of course. Anyone want to try this ? I'd like to know the terminal ballistics of such slugs, and how many pennies you can recover in spendable shape for a dead deer.
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Ah yes, a couple words of advice, young grasshopper:
- If you're shooting batteries, make sure your sister is alright with you taking them from her drawer.
- And instead of a stack of pennies, try a couple ounces of gold coin. Make sure you shoot them east,
 
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