IDPA Targets for sale.

Really.........are we still going on about targets...........Really.........? Not sure what the big deal is. The last batch we bought from the supplier here in Ontario we paid $75/100, .75 cents a target, like is that such a big deal.........Really............is it? How much cheaper is it coming from the US, if it is, good for you for getting the better price, but I just cannot see it, not at .75 cents Canadian a target.
 
Slavex said:
IPSC Ontario was selling their die for making IPSC metric targets. BBB maybe you should find out if its still available. I think there is still a market for that.
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Rob
i would be very intrested in that, i have not shot IPSC this year and only 1 L3 match last year so i,m out of touch with who,s who in ontario, with all the BOD dramma, who knows whos in charge....
BBB
 
Jarlath said:
So now you decide to snipe at non-IDPA groups with that sarcastic comment?
First it was support Canada businesses, and now it's dumbed down to this?
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it is not a snipe, it is a fact... ontario has many "regional" *dpa organizations... they have a lower overhead and for the most part "borrowed" IDPA's rule book so they have less cost to incur.

if you want to be cheap, and never plan on participating in an international or US match then those are better options for your club.... end of story.
 
I think it was Quigley who mentioned the die was for sale. He might be able to help you.
 
stormbringer said:
If the HQ is incapable of providing targets at a market price then they should get the hell out of the BUSINESS of making targets and concentrate on the GAME.

If that results in higher 'mission fees" or what ever that would be acceptable as one would know how much $$ one is paying for what.

But of course IDPA is a "for profit" company so that does put a different slant on things.

As an MD and member in good standing at a club it is REQUIRED that he try to put on the best match he can with the lowest budget.

I say Kudos for him putting in th effort to do so.
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HQ does not provide targets, period. They receive a small royalty for every target sold. That is it. The cost of producing targets in Canada is higher due 1. Lower production runs due to a smaller market. 2. Relatively higher fixed costs of the Cdn manufacturer.

The only reason why we have target suppliers in Canada is because commercial shipping costs would drive the cost of targets beyond any practical price point. If you live or your club is within 100 miles of the US border then it is going to be cost effective to purchase targets in the US with the dollar at par and somebody willing to donate their time and the cost of transportation. In the absence of the latter two options the cost of the US product will exceed the cost of targets made in Canada. The advantages of buying in the US disappear completely if you factor in transportation costs.

What I have tried to do is regionalize our three suppliers in an attempt ti keep transportation costs to a minimum for our clubs. The three retailers are providing the service to the sport so it can exist.

Stormy IDPA is incorporated as a private for profit company under US Tax Laws. The sport is controlled by Bill Wilson and a BoD. He did this soley for control purposes. The fixed costs incurred by IDPA are bourne by the members just like they are for IPSC or USPSA. At the end of the day income must exceed expenses in all three cases. No magic and no difference. Well there is one difference when IDPA's income exceeds expenses it pays US Federal taxes.

Take Care

Bob
 
Quigley, I can't find any old emails or PM's related to that. Am I wrong that it was you who told me about the die?
 
TIM_COX said:
it is not a snipe, it is a fact... ontario has many "regional" *dpa organizations... they have a lower overhead and for the most part "borrowed" IDPA's rule book so they have less cost to incur.
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Yup. Lower overhead, due to cheap targets and less bureaucracy. The club reflects the desires of the membership. IDPA was desired at EESA by it's members.
However, some of the questions that arise for practices are:
How many targets does your club go through in practice nights?
What about uprights/target holders?
Do you have a half dozen people shooting or three dozen shooting?

My club holds only a few ODPL matches a year (well not last year...:redface:), yet we have weekly practice nights and quarterly mini-matches. The fees of these matches would not cover the usage of purchased targets.
However, since we make our own targets, our club can afford stands, patches, patch guns and save some funds for props and steel targets every few years.

TIM_COX said:
if you want to be cheap, and never plan on participating in an international or US match then those are better options for your club.... end of story.
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You mean if you want to participate in an IDPA match. Many people around my area who shoot ODPL also shoot multi-gun matches that are held in the USA. No need to belong to IDPA to do that. Of course it is a different discipline (opposed to handgun only).

Sorry for the thread derail, but when it goes from a cost/"buy Canadian" argument to "the other shooting disciplines are cheaper because" was not required.

That being said, if IDPA requires official targets for anything above a practice night, then those are the rules. Nothing says where they have to come from; that is up to the individual clubs.
 
Sorry for the thread hijack, but can anyone confirm or refute my likely flawed memory?

I believe at one point IPSC Canada got a royalty from each target sold, but that system was abolished in the mid 90's.

Correct??
 
TIM_COX said:
edited to add... quote from IDPA rule book, notice there is no distinction between sanctioned matches and club matches... it says ALL matches.
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Actually if you read your own post it say ALL IDPA matches...........which is different than all matches. As it would only cover sanctioned matches. But it was an nice try. To bad it flopped.


Oh and IPSC targets are 65 cents each if you buy them from IPSC Ontario They used to be $1 when the canadian dollar was lower. Eventhen if you bought 1000 (as I always do) it dropped to 85 cents.

I was going to buy mine at target barn as well as they were a tad cheaper. However I found myself two blocks away from the warehouse that houses the IPSC targets to the gas money portion dropped to zero.
 
Steve David said:
So in 5 pages we went from ATHL announcing they they are now an official IDPA target supplier, that is great, to the garbage in the last 4 pages. Nice really really nice.
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No we also learned that you need to go to you CP and adjust your settings......

I have mine set to 100 posts per page...

As such I am only halfway through page ONE!!

That alone makes this thread worth it...............does it not?
 
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