Yup, same in Ontario. If you are carrying a gun in the woods during hunting season, you are hunting...period. I just got a small game tag & a bear tag which is effectively, immunity in nearly all WMU's. Who owns the property is irrelevent.
Light rifle, which cal?
- Thread starter Cagunman
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Yup, same in Ontario. If you are carrying a gun in the woods during hunting season, you are hunting...period. I just got a small game tag & a bear tag which is effectively, immunity in nearly all WMU's. Who owns the property is irrelevent.
- Location
- New Brunswick
Our provincial laws for discharging a firearm on either crown or private land are antiquated to say the least.
Speaking of private land, I don't believe any really exists in NB. Our private property and trespassing laws have no teeth and are in bad need of an overhaul.
carrying is one thing, but shooting "Property of the Crown" is a big No-No.
Remember the 3 S's is my advice.
Rob
Too Bad Only One Gun
I know this is kinda old, but I am in the same position as yourself.
I solved in three ways.
1) .223 Remington Varmint with Hogue stock. Very Very accurate with 50 gr. v-max pills. I use for serious mid range varminting.
2) All purpose - M14, but range is limited due to the open sights (My preference).
3) For going after bear, my Marlin 45-70 is very sweet! True, it's like lobbing a bowling ball, but is very sweet nonetheless. It too has a limited range.
4) For all round bush gun, I have to give it to my mini-14. I have the ranch style, modified sights and it is surprisingly accurate out to about 250/300 yards (Can hit a 16" gong at 300 yards). I nailed a 'yote at 150 yards with a second quick followup shot. It is light and surprisingly compact. I use 55 grainers in the gun.
As for hunting, here in Alberta, we can hunt varmints all year as long as the landowner gives us permission. It's a very addicting sport.
I know this is kinda old, but I am in the same position as yourself.
I solved in three ways.
1) .223 Remington Varmint with Hogue stock. Very Very accurate with 50 gr. v-max pills. I use for serious mid range varminting.
2) All purpose - M14, but range is limited due to the open sights (My preference).
3) For going after bear, my Marlin 45-70 is very sweet! True, it's like lobbing a bowling ball, but is very sweet nonetheless. It too has a limited range.
4) For all round bush gun, I have to give it to my mini-14. I have the ranch style, modified sights and it is surprisingly accurate out to about 250/300 yards (Can hit a 16" gong at 300 yards). I nailed a 'yote at 150 yards with a second quick followup shot. It is light and surprisingly compact. I use 55 grainers in the gun.
As for hunting, here in Alberta, we can hunt varmints all year as long as the landowner gives us permission. It's a very addicting sport.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Are you guys telling me that you can't have in your possession or fire any centerfire rifle with a bore larger than .23" on private land under any circumstances outside of a big game season? I find it hard to believe, but if true I guess I don't need to entertain any idea of a visit eastward.
That is not what I'm saying. I'm saying that During a big game hunting season, you MUST be in posession of a hunting license with a big game tag for that WMU if you are in possession of a centerfire rifle. I cannot verify the caliber limit. My hunting regulations bible states high powered rifle I believe.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Ok, so our guy then needs only to have a resident deer license in his posession during the big game season, then he can carry any caliber of firearm he chooses throughout the year on his own land to deal with any black bear or coyote issues he might face. Correct?
It is actually better & easier to get a resident bear & small game license. These are not WMU specific & cover all calibers. Deer tags are WMU specific. Otherwise, your logic is correct.
LongBomber
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fernie, bc
Looking into the hunting regulations for deer, moose, bear it reads:
Hunters must use one of the following:
•A centre-fire rifle of any calibre.
•A shotgun with ball, slug or lead shot larger than size BB (including buckshot) or steel shot larger than size F.
•A bow having a draw weight of not less than 20 kilograms together with arrows that are fitted with broadheads no less than 20 millimetres in width.
•A muzzle-loading firearm.
•Once the deer or bear tag has been removed from the licence, it is illegal to use:
•A centre-fire rifle of .23 calibre or greater.
•A shotgun with lead shot larger than size BB or steel shot larger than size F.
•You cannot carry or use a firearm that has a rim-fire shell or cartridge while hunting moose.
So do the hunting regulations apply to a non-hunter? Where are the regulations for a NON-HUNTER? You cannot transport or discharge a non-restricted rifle at a pop can on public land? I say take that fight to the gov and get the regulations changed, thats far above the current federal legislation!
Hunters must use one of the following:
•A centre-fire rifle of any calibre.
•A shotgun with ball, slug or lead shot larger than size BB (including buckshot) or steel shot larger than size F.
•A bow having a draw weight of not less than 20 kilograms together with arrows that are fitted with broadheads no less than 20 millimetres in width.
•A muzzle-loading firearm.
•Once the deer or bear tag has been removed from the licence, it is illegal to use:
•A centre-fire rifle of .23 calibre or greater.
•A shotgun with lead shot larger than size BB or steel shot larger than size F.
•You cannot carry or use a firearm that has a rim-fire shell or cartridge while hunting moose.
So do the hunting regulations apply to a non-hunter? Where are the regulations for a NON-HUNTER? You cannot transport or discharge a non-restricted rifle at a pop can on public land? I say take that fight to the gov and get the regulations changed, thats far above the current federal legislation!
Sorry, I should have mentioned that since hunting falls under provincial jurisdiction (except for migratory birds), BC hunting laws will differ greatly from ours in Ontario. Some people have suggested that if you can demonstrate that you are target shooting by carrying lots of targets around with you, you should be ok. I wouldn't bet my freedom (read "privilages") on that suggestion. Consult your provincial hunting regulations to be sure.
Here in New brunswick it is unlawful to carry a firearm, bow or muzzleloader in a resort of wildlife (read outside) without a valid hunting lisence. Once you use your tag for big game be it deer, bear or moose, you may only carry a shotgun loaded with either steal shot or lead shot size bb or smaller, a rifle of .23 cal or smaller or rimfire, a bow or a muzzle loader. Even on private property your encouraged atleast, if not required, to let the Rangers know when you're going to be shooting and what firearms.
LongBomber
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fernie, bc
Here in BC you are fine to carry whatever non-restricted you want to, with the proper registration cert and a PAL, and discharge on crown land in a safe location, at any time of the year. The above quote is from New Brunswick which is where I thought the OP was talking about, sorry if I missed something.
But my question still stands, what if you are a non-hunter on crown land? No carry or discharge?
LongBomber
CGN Regular
- Location
- Fernie, bc
Note to self - don't go to New Brunswick! The Gov should put that little tid bit on the website under the same area as I found the above quote!
Speaking for how I understand it in Ontario, if you are in the woods during hunting season with any non-restricted firearm, you are hunting. If you don't have a license/tag for the firearm you are in possession of, you are poaching. I will look up the exact wording and post.
- Location
- WMU248 near Edmonton
What a pile of ......... If I'm not hunting then I'll carry what ever I like, you have some silly rules there in NB.
but you just had an election ??? time to push for some changes.
If I'm not hunting then I'll carry what ever I like, you have some silly rules there in NB.
but you just had an election ??? time to push for some changes.
My understanding is that you can buy a Varmint license which will be good for 50 weeks of the year. With said license you're allowed to carry a rifle of any caliber less than .23, this includes .17HMR, .22, .22Mag, .223 and .22-250. I don't know how this applies to shotguns, I am assuming that shotguns are legal, I'll have to check that out. Right now I'm leaning towards the .223, I think in this case there never will be a shot at more than 50 yrds max, And with the max bullet grain it should do the trick.
Thanks for all the comments and advise.
If I was limited to a .224 cal rifle for defense it would be my XCR-L in 223 with 10 round LAR mags it would be loaded with the most premium bullets available Trophy Bonded Bear Claw/Partition/TSX etc and I would want them to be 55gr and heavier...
