Black Badge question
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And unless you get a range all by yourself it would cost a bit more for only one student...plus of course targets and patches...all included in the course....oh I forgot the BBI is paid to this amount $0.00
The reward is to see your students shoot IPSC!
The reward is to see your students shoot IPSC!
in slavex's case, if said person allready has the abliity to pass the test then, it should be a breeze for them to do. If a kid has been driving a race car for 5 years they still need to take the same tests as anyone else to get a drivers license when they turn 16.
There was a shooter in Alberta a few years ago that had been shooting USPSA for years before he moved up here, what was his process for shooting matches up here?
If I were to have just moved here from the US, the BB course would be boring as hell but worth the inconvience to be able to shoot.
There was a shooter in Alberta a few years ago that had been shooting USPSA for years before he moved up here, what was his process for shooting matches up here?
If I were to have just moved here from the US, the BB course would be boring as hell but worth the inconvience to be able to shoot.
What am I asking? As stated, there are individuals who have been trying to get into BB courses for years. Do to their unique work scheduling 2 days for courses has proven to be unworkable. In the case of a couple of them that I know personally, their abilities and gun handling skills are far far better than most currently in IPSC. I was simply inquiring if putting them through the rules portion would be sufficient. Apparently not. The end result is they won't be shooting IPSC anytime soon, if ever.
I'm sorry, but if they want to shoot IPSC bad enough I'm sure they could
find a workable solution.
I had to drive 5 hours to Ft. McMurray to get my BB done. That meant
booking a day off work for travel time, food costs, and hotel costs.
Sounds like whining and they are not even IPSC members yet! ;-)
Is there only one BB instructor in BC or what?
Here's an idea.
Have them talk to an instructor who can fit them into the practical part for one course, and into the rules part for a different course.
Some instructors have many courses scheduled throughout the year, several months in advance. Have them take the rules portion now (as convenient) and see if he can also fit them into the practical part next month, or the month after, or even in the spring if need be. One Saturday this month, followed by a Sunday next month shouldn't be too much of a scheduling horror.
If what you're saying is that they never have 2 weekend days free for months at a time, then they probably won't be shooting any IPSC, anyways.
If it was only guys in BC I'd heard it from I would've. But I've heard this from a number of others across the country as well.
HB your suggestion is what I'd already told them. The irony is that they have been available for matches, at least one day, but so far not for any courses scheduled.
HB your suggestion is what I'd already told them. The irony is that they have been available for matches, at least one day, but so far not for any courses scheduled.
Hmmm, should I spend US$225 for 5 year USPSA membership or CAD$200 for BB course + ammo cost AND THEN CAD$65-75 (annually?) for BC IPSC membership?
I'll def have to think about that....
Is IPSC Canada catering to Elites just like Liberals do? C'mon, is it sport or a private club?
I do understand many people streached a loooong way to pay for the course and take the classes, but, is the whole process reasonable? It'd sure be for new shooters, one has to pay with either money or time to learn the ropes, but for those who do it for years?
It's not the cost and time required, it's the approach that turns many-many people off.
I'll def have to think about that....
Is IPSC Canada catering to Elites just like Liberals do? C'mon, is it sport or a private club?
I do understand many people streached a loooong way to pay for the course and take the classes, but, is the whole process reasonable? It'd sure be for new shooters, one has to pay with either money or time to learn the ropes, but for those who do it for years?
It's not the cost and time required, it's the approach that turns many-many people off.
WHOA!! WTF has brought out bashing of IPSC Canada!!?(which many on this forum are members of) Elites like Liberals my ass. I did the OPEN BOOK TEST at least a few weeks before the course. Got married the week before the weekend I was taking my BB course. TOok MY TIME to attend the test review/course 2hrs drive away,...then spent my day on the range saturday and Sunday. I made the time. The BB instructors made the time to instruct the course. Everyone has responsibilities and priorities. I made mine the course.
Jesus christ,...to take a motorcycle course you need to pass the test AND do a basic road test. I can not fathom someone not having a minimum two days to take the test/course. Plenty of the "Elite" take their time to answer questions, give advice, attend match's, set up matches, (which usually take a day, and then another day running it, scoring it, RO'ing it, etc..) order awards, patches, targets, repair steel,..etc....etc.etc...
ALL FOR LOTS OF MONEY$$$ NOT....they volunteer their time, even taking Vacation time from work, away from family, etc..etc.
That is my approach. Give something back...I burn half my leave to attend matches yearly, because I know the world does not stop and wait for MO.
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Like MO my course was a challenge as well....I had to drive 1.5hr to Halifax then go into hotel for friday/sat night until I flew out before the end of the course....there wasn't much left but still.... finished the course a couple week later (after my return from my business trip)...the difference with MO is that we took pretty much all our Leave after that for match and lots of week-end to go shoot outside match....if they a will there a way!
I some one want to shoot USPSA instead of IPSC sure go ahead.....by the way I also shoot USPSA but shooting USPSA with block mag's does not interest me a bit
I some one want to shoot USPSA instead of IPSC sure go ahead.....by the way I also shoot USPSA
but shooting USPSA with block mag's does not interest me a bit For me the cost of BB course was a little fraction of cost for my gear ammo, match fees, travel, club memberships and other costs. Even if for a liability reasons for IPSC Canada and your fellow shooters, I would take the course.
If you have to think about it, perhaps you right, you should stay out of IPSC.
Maurice, I didn't mean to bash IPSC Canada, but I'm not happy with the way they treat USPSA shooters. I do apologize for getting you up in a bunch.
Since you bring up motorcycle course; I took and completed one, and got my MC license a while back and I DO think it was great to have this available to NEW riders. I rode a bike for a few years, really enjoyed it and would do it again (had to sell the bike). Does it mean I have to take the same course another time 'cos I sold my bike a year+ ago? I don't think so.
I played sports for 10+ years, seriously, on fairly high level, I know one can loose or misplace uniform, but muscle memory and technique will stay with you for lifetime. Even if you get a little 'rusty', you are still to fit in. I tried to play same sport here in Canada (I'm not originally from Canada) and people on the team were 10-20 years behind in concepts and technique. Do we want the same to happen to IPSC Canada vs IPSC or USPSA, in general? I do know that there are many talents here, not saying I'm one of those.
When I have money and time, I'll def have to and will take BB course to take part in IPSC matches in Canada, untill then, I'll continue shooting IDPA in Canada/USA and USPSA in USA.
And I'm seriously considering getting Life Time Membership with USPSA for US$600. If I get to shoot another 15-25 years, it's well worth it.
There is Sport and there is Professional Sport; I'm not paid to train and compete, most people here don't. Make this Sport available and approacheable to wider audience, only then we can be successful.
euxx, It was a fraction, I don't agrue with that, and I am a full member of 2 clubs, one in Canada and one in USA, RO at a Canadian range and about to become SO at another Canadian range.
I do fully agree, NEW shooters should take BB course, I don't really understand why shooters with track record should.
When I came to Canada 16 years ago, I didn't have to take driving lessons again (I had another DL), I just went to take the tests - theory and road test and got passed. Rules may be a little different, skills are the same.
I'm not trying to 'upset' anyone here, but I may have a little different concepts and logics in my thinking. We can still be friends and live and train and compete together. Different mindset doesn't have to mean - enemy.
Very often, we don't agree with things but do comply with rules and laws, take Firearms Act....
Since you bring up motorcycle course; I took and completed one, and got my MC license a while back and I DO think it was great to have this available to NEW riders. I rode a bike for a few years, really enjoyed it and would do it again (had to sell the bike). Does it mean I have to take the same course another time 'cos I sold my bike a year+ ago? I don't think so.
I played sports for 10+ years, seriously, on fairly high level, I know one can loose or misplace uniform, but muscle memory and technique will stay with you for lifetime. Even if you get a little 'rusty', you are still to fit in. I tried to play same sport here in Canada (I'm not originally from Canada) and people on the team were 10-20 years behind in concepts and technique. Do we want the same to happen to IPSC Canada vs IPSC or USPSA, in general? I do know that there are many talents here, not saying I'm one of those.
When I have money and time, I'll def have to and will take BB course to take part in IPSC matches in Canada, untill then, I'll continue shooting IDPA in Canada/USA and USPSA in USA.
And I'm seriously considering getting Life Time Membership with USPSA for US$600. If I get to shoot another 15-25 years, it's well worth it.
There is Sport and there is Professional Sport; I'm not paid to train and compete, most people here don't. Make this Sport available and approacheable to wider audience, only then we can be successful.
euxx, It was a fraction, I don't agrue with that, and I am a full member of 2 clubs, one in Canada and one in USA, RO at a Canadian range and about to become SO at another Canadian range.
I do fully agree, NEW shooters should take BB course, I don't really understand why shooters with track record should.
When I came to Canada 16 years ago, I didn't have to take driving lessons again (I had another DL), I just went to take the tests - theory and road test and got passed. Rules may be a little different, skills are the same.
I'm not trying to 'upset' anyone here, but I may have a little different concepts and logics in my thinking. We can still be friends and live and train and compete together. Different mindset doesn't have to mean - enemy.
Very often, we don't agree with things but do comply with rules and laws, take Firearms Act....
Since you brought it up. Let's say if your car or motorcycle license expired, you still have to take the exam in order to renew the license.
I like USPSA as well,..I have a recently purchased 3 year membership. Good luck, and I hope you find the time to participate in IPSC. It gets me worked up when I know and experience what it takes to host a BB course and the work that goes into the course, matches,...... and then read something comparing Liberal elite to IPSC Canada.(which I took to include the match organizers, BB instructors and helpers.). Not the best place to debate, but when in Rome.....
