My Deer Shot

If you go way back and read my original post. Actually read, and not glance over it you will see that I said to pick you're equipment and do it properly.
I never said anything about yardage. Nor anything about a lever gun.

READ. And then think about posting.

As for the rest of this crap most of you are spewing. If you are comfortable with a shot. Take it. If you think there is a smidgen of a chance you might pull it and end up with a gut shot. Don't.

I would, and have passed on some pretty damn big bucks because I wasn't a hundred and ten percent sure.

Do you know what? You should STFU! I'm tired of all your BS! You act like you are the most ethical hunter on the face of the earth. The truth is that you are the biggest slob hunter around. If you ask me, the reason you don't shoot is that you are a lousy shot and you live in S. Ontario which is the worse place in Canada for hunting. I have come to the conclusion that you are just jealous of the rest of us being able to do this great shots and you can't shoot $hit even if your life depended on it.
 
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Do you know what? You should STFU! I'm tired of all your BS! You act like you are the most ethical hunter on the face of the earth. The truth is that you are the biggest slob hunter around. If you ask me, the reason you don't shoot is that you are a lousy shot and you live in S. Ontario which is the worse place in Canada for hunting. I have come to the conclusion that you are just jealous of the rest of us being able to do this great shots and you can't shoot $hit even if your life depended on it.

I wouldn't go painting everyone from a specific region with the same brush either! Just a suggestion! Otherwise I will have to start slinging slurs against Albertan's, and that isn't what this thread is about, is it?
 
They do a lot of Neck and Head Shots on Deer in England, and over fairly long distances, and shooting at much smaller deer.........those English though, they are as a nation, better shots than North Americans, so I guess they can get away with it!:stirthepot2:

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Yet another entertaining thread. My old man takes all his moose and deer with neck and head shots. I do not recall a single animal that took 2 shots, no misses, all first shot kills. Never lost an animal nor had to track one. I also don't remember hearing of him shooting for anything but the head and neck. I do know he's helped track partners animals, lost one cow moose that was hit too low.
Is he lucky maybe or he simply knows when to, and when not to shoot. I know he feels
it's fairer to the animal, either it's a miss or it's down. If you and your
rifle are accurate and you wait for exactly the right moment why would
you waste any of the meat your working so hard to harvest? Head down drinking water with you at it's 12 o-clock... Hunting doesn't get
more humane than that. Small target.. BS. Stay within the range you know you can hit it and pick the right time to pull or go home and try for the right shot next time. I
personalll love guns but have no interest hunting with a rifle, it's too easy for my liking but if I had to, I'm comfortable braining a sleeping doe or spining a bull as he pisses at 300y, I know I probably could farther but probably isn't good enough. Oh
is taking an animal while it sleeps unethical? Should
I wake it first with a warning shot or a whistle?
 
I'm just wondering, just incase I was to take up rifle hunting, will my .300 win mag work?what is the proper caliber if it's not? What's the proper distance? What's the proper method, still or stalk? and where is the proper spot to aim for? What is the proper way to check if it's dead? What's the proper way to cook it? Left or right, which hand is proper for wiping after digesting that proper meal? Almost forgot, is it proper to discuss the hunt after or before dinner, show pictures or not, should I pose with a smile or show some regret?

Someone here must know the answers.
 
Do you know what? You should STFU! I'm tired of all your BS! You act like you are the most ethical hunter on the face of the earth. The truth is that you are the biggest slob hunter around. If you ask me, the reason you don't shoot is that you are a lousy shot and you live in S. Ontario which is the worse place in Canada for hunting. I have come to the conclusion that you are just jealous of the rest of us being able to do this great shots and you can't shoot $hit even if your life depended on it.

OK, I think I' understand. Now, tell the truth. You, drache, and fuzzy are about 15, right?
 
Watch the video again, as I explain that I held on the neck/had area for the second shot. :)

The second shot hit a within 2 inches of where I was aiming...The first shot? Who knows?

In this case, from where I was, I didn't have a clear shot at the boiler room, and the most ethical shot was the neck/head- which I don't normally think is a great idea. I did breifly considered shooting through the tree, but only for a second.:p

Cool. I had the sound off when I watched it so I didn't know that. Could the first bullet have hit a twig or something?
 
Just waded in on this one.
For all of those who deride head and neck shots, here in Australia it is the law that when kangaroo shooting you must either shoot the head, neck or heart.
All of those shots are the same size as a deer head shot or smaller.
I read story after story about rifles that can circumcise a gnat at 5 miles and then some guy gets a shower of the proverbial rained down upon him because he neck shot a deer at 60yds??!!
It's laughable.
If I can't hit a bunny at 60yds offhand I'm a dud.
As for the "there's lots of muscle and not so much spine", what EXACTLY do you think the muscle is connected too?
And the comments about the jugular and temporal artery, not to mention the trachea, are also right on.
Plus, none of us are using old military FMJ ball ammo to hunt with.
The bullets in factory ammo are quite effective, let alone the exotic stuff many of us handloaders use.
Playing it safe is fine.
But if you're meat hunting and you can make the shot why be apologetic?
 
This was my shot this year, sitting, resting on knees at about 150 yards with my 6.5 x55 with a mild 140gr sst load.
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I gave it 5-10 minutes as it strangely walked out of sight. It was still standing when I approached and saw it again. It was looking directly away from me with it's head down and I had my rifle up waiting for a shot as it turned it's head it saw me and bounced away like a kangaroo. I tracked it for about 300-400 yards and then lost the track for 2-3 hours. I found it after circling the area, getting wider and wider and spotted a magpie and a woodpecker standing on something in the grass. When I scared them they both flew up into the same tree and I thought that was suspicious.

Only half of one lung was destroyed and a chunk of diaphragm, so it wasn't going too far, but it was still quite able of running away from me.

I know I was a few inches lower than I should have been but I took the best rest I could and hit the bottom left edge of my "paper plate" at a reasonable range with a reasonable rifle. I should have waited longer before I approached and I paid for that with a hard track, but it worked out in the end.

What will you say about me?
 
OK, I think I' understand. Now, tell the truth. You, drache, and fuzzy are about 15, right?

That's too funny........and sad at the same time. Everybody knows the one about arguing on the internet and the special olympics.

Common courtesy goes a long way and using it while defending your opinion is something every adult and gentleman shoud practice. It would've been nice to see such a thing on both sides of this debate. Name calling and sweeping insults are not only childish but they show your lack of mental acuity.

BTW - many on this forum (myself included) were 27 and younger once too. Believe me when I say that at that age you don't know even half of what you think you do.
 
This was my shot this year, sitting, resting on knees at about 150 yards with my 6.5 x55 with a mild 140gr sst load.
deeranatomy-myshotthisyear.jpg


I gave it 5-10 minutes as it strangely walked out of sight. It was still standing when I approached and saw it again. It was looking directly away from me with it's head down and I had my rifle up waiting for a shot as it turned it's head it saw me and bounced away like a kangaroo. I tracked it for about 300-400 yards and then lost the track for 2-3 hours. I found it after circling the area, getting wider and wider and spotted a magpie and a woodpecker standing on something in the grass. When I scared them they both flew up into the same tree and I thought that was suspicious.

Only half of one lung was destroyed and a chunk of diaphragm, so it wasn't going too far, but it was still quite able of running away from me.

I know I was a few inches lower than I should have been but I took the best rest I could and hit the bottom left edge of my "paper plate" at a reasonable range with a reasonable rifle. I should have waited longer before I approached and I paid for that with a hard track, but it worked out in the end.

What will you say about me?


Undoubtedly you'll get some comments from guys who say that if you could see hair in the sights you should of dropped the hammer if you knew it already had a hole in it, and you wouldn't be able to move to a better position for a shot (ala Gatehouses' moose scenario)

(I'm one of those guys.)

Once its had the initial bullet or arrow in it, any part of the critter is fair game for a second or third or fourth shot if its still mobile. In my opinion at any rate.


HOWEVER, I'm also one of those guys who knows where the crosshairs were when the trigger broke, and can call my own shots. So if the animals reaction confirms where I believe that first bullet to be, I may or may not shoot him again.
 
Oh, and good work on the tracking and recovery.

As for the initial shot, you can only do the best you can do, and #### happens. If it was in your effective range, with an appropriate tool, then who cares what anyone else thinks?
 
Tikka t3 lite 6.5x55, 140gr sst @ ~2450-2500, sitting with elbows rested with B&L elite 2-7x32 @ 7X.

A little disappointed and I really worked for it. In hindsight though,If there is a positive spin, it ran closer to a road and put my drag from ~1km to 600 meters, eliminating some of the hardest part.

Great shots happen and sometimes shots like mine happen. Last years deer with the same rifle dropped like I cut it's strings.
 
Oh, and I was a little unsure of shooting it up the ass on the second shot.. I could have maybe skimmed up it's spine, but I thought that would have been kinda.. well.. graphic compared to waiting for 10 seconds. It looked like it was in bad shape, head down and blood coming out of it's mouth. I did not see it flying off like a goddamn kangaroo any time soon. I know I wouldn't be up for jumping around in that case.

I learned a couple things from this deer. I'm 30 and I've gotten about 10-12 deer so far but this one taught me more than most of them.
 
Then thats all that matters....

FWIW, one to the base of the tail will dump any critter standing and let you wander up at your leisure to fling a finisher at him.
 
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