Burlington gun club...5 month wait minimum!!

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nwills

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I'm currently a member of 2 clubs....silverdale and the grange.
I've done my security level courses and done probation shoots at both clubs.
I have my ATT and everything else.

I looked into membership at the Burlington gun club which is located 15 minutes away from my house and found out that they will not recognize the courses I already did...my letters from my existing clubs indicating that I'm in good standing and that there is no course availability until end of April 2011!!! At which point I can take the course...attend all disciplines over a whole week every evening...and only then is my membership reviewed at a later point for full membership.

Long story short...I would be a full member there sometime end of may or June.....it's December!!!! Seriously?! That's 6-7 months!

They should simply make it an exclusive closed door no new member policy at this point.

Don't mean to say bad things about the organization but anyone who makes it that hard for me to simply give them my money and be given the opportunity to enjoy their facility is in my books not a new business friendly operation!
 
It is a busy club, but you could always go to the courses as a standby (I did it) and go that way. And the membership reviews happen at the middle of every month at their board meetings. So once you get all that done it should be quick.
From inquiry of courses to attending the various disciplines nightly and getting board approval it took me a month and a half. I would have got my full membership sooner if I wasn`t away for work and my family activities preventing me from visiting the various disciplines at night.
And I can see why your security courses from the other clubs being not applicable to Burlington as they are different clubs with their own set of rules.
 
We are our own worst enemies. Burlington is a "safer" gun club I suppose? The stigma and the bull$hit in the firearms community is stifling.

We are Wendy's best allies.
 
Same Sh^^ different author.

cp: Once you find a club that supports an encourages shooting, it will be a club that DOES NOT CONDONE it's membership chairman to have a waiting list that long. BBRC operates with a sh^^ eating attitude that we'll maintain an rule the list of who we priviledge the rite to the exciting world of recreational shooting, but at their say so. Not in a nutshell buddy you are really waiting in line for day care. Theire's plenty of other clubs that will openly work with you.:bangHead:
 
As others have said, FCUK EM!

That's what I did!

Don't regret it one bit!

I've been there a couple times and its always busy with some event, or practice.

Seems the only time you can actually shoot there is midnight and later!

Then there is all the ridiculous politics that we keep hearing about on top of that!

But skeetgunner(I think) will be along shortly to tell you it is the best club ever!
 
Club waiting period

Love the attitude.
I am sure that the club in question is breathing a sigh of relief that you are no longer interested.
My club has a waiting period to see if prospective new members are willing to put something back in to the club.
Through the foresight of early members we have a wonderful facility with thousands of hours of sweat equity. We don't "need" new members who just want to use our work without putting in some of their own.
If that is a problem you are welcome to go somewhere else.
 
"...they will not recognize the courses I already did..." Not up to them. Club level courses are mandated by the CPFO. In addition to the PAL/RPAL. That's the really stupid part.
A long waiting list in the Burlington/Hamilton area isn't unusual given the population in the area. Clubs aren't businesses either.
 
saskbooknut said:
Love the attitude.
I am sure that the club in question is breathing a sigh of relief that you are no longer interested.
My club has a waiting period to see if prospective new members are willing to put something back in to the club.
Through the foresight of early members we have a wonderful facility with thousands of hours of sweat equity. We don't "need" new members who just want to use our work without putting in some of their own.
If that is a problem you are welcome to go somewhere else.
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Put something back into the club! I think the fact I want to be a member and am frustrated with an overly long wait doesn't give me a bad attitude. If you read my post carefully you'll see that I said that I don't mean to say bad things about the organization....and I didn't in any way use any abrasive words.

The fact they make it so complicated to get access to a 41 year old father of two who thoroughly enjoys shooting sports who's gone to the club and showed his interest in person with the best of intentions and a positive demeanor isn't a show of a thorough process but poor ability to promote new membership and attendance at their facility.

If anything...your response was certainly more abrasive than my original posting. My membership fee, attendance, course fees and positive attitude with a real sense of respecting the rules and regulations of any facility I go to....IS putting something back into the club...would you suggest I go there on the week ends and build an addition to the club on my own dime!! lol

sunray said:
"...they will not recognize the courses I already did..." Not up to them. Club level courses are mandated by the CPFO. In addition to the PAL/RPAL. That's the really stupid part.
A long waiting list in the Burlington/Hamilton area isn't unusual given the population in the area. Clubs aren't businesses either.
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The Grange recognized my safety courses and as a result I wasn't required to take theirs. I don't make the rules nor do I have in depth understanding on how gun clubs work...that was simply my experience and both clubs I belong to were a pleasure to deal with and very inviting to taking me on as a new member. I believe that is a much better attitude to take rather than make you feel as though your membership is not important.

But that's me....and by the way...they're not businesses....well...with 1600 members at $200/ member plus course fees and extras...that's close to $400 000 of early revenue....in my books...that's a business. Revenue=business. It's not a charitable organization.
 
Damn... I thought joining the first club took the longest. When I joined other clubs, I became a full member the same day with fast track safety course. All I did was proved I belong to said club and produced a valid LTATT. I'm glad that the new clubs I joined recognized the other club's safety course.
 
nwills said:
Don't mean to say bad things about the organization but anyone who makes it that hard for me to simply give them my money and be given the opportunity to enjoy their facility is in my books not a new business friendly operation!
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It's a club.. Not a business.

As for wait times... Everyone has schedules to work around.

'Been a member for a dozen or so years... Shoot during dedicated disapline time slots and on my own during off hours... 'Never a problem.

I could slag some some other clubs, but I won't. None are perfect and if Burlington doesn't suit you... Feel free to move along and find one that meets your every need.
Or... Start your own.
 
john777 said:
Damn... I thought joining the first club took the longest. When I joined other clubs, I became a full member the same day with fast track safety course. All I did was proved I belong to said club and produced a valid LTATT. I'm glad that the new clubs I joined recognized the other club's safety course.
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How long ago did you join them, maybe policy has changed?

Which clubs are those, maybe OP wants to try there?




667 said:
It's a club.. Not a business.

As for wait times... Everyone has schedules to work around.

'Been a member for a dozen or so years... Shoot during dedicated disapline time slots and on my own during off hours... 'Never a problem.

I could slag some some other clubs, but I won't. None are perfect and if Burlington doesn't suit you... Feel free to move along and find one that meets your every need.
Or... Start your own.
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Burlington is ok, but Silverdale IS perfect... :popCorn:
 
Guys,

I'm a member at Burlington, there's a waiting list for a reason, it's a good club..The waiting list is for the club safety course, FYI most clubs demand you take their safety course..What you can do is just show up the morning of the course ( last weekend of each month).. often people on the list don't show up so there's usually a few spots for walk ins.
 
Like I said...I'm not trying to badmouth Burlington Club...that's not my intention. I just feel they should try to make the process easier...streamline it? Make sure potential members feel welcomed.

I'm not saying that safety courses are not necessary. As a father of two I can only appreciate the importance of club safety...I would hate to catch a bullet because someone next to me is careless!

That doesn't change the fact that every other club I've dealt with was much more forthcoming and helpful in trying to get me as a new member.

My frustration comes from the fact that I DO want to be a member there....so all those that have nothing better to suggest than me moving on...thanks for nothing.

Either ways....I don't generally go for organizations that make me feel unwelcome with what I consider to be a overly lengthy process...

That's my opinion...and I'm entitled to it.

In closing...All those that are members there and enjoy their membership...great! It seems like a otherwise very good range.

Thanks
 
Having been a member of Burlington for almost 20 years, I havent sent in my membership dues yet. After the bull#### with the CFI and the target crap last spring (althought it was changed) I am starting to wonder what is so great about the club anyways. Its small and has poor facilities compared to the other clubs. The only plus is that its 24 hours, I dont shoot much at 3am anymore.

Maybe you can have my spot if I dont send in my dues.
 
It seems like everything related to firearms is a "hurry up and wait" situation. However, I think I would be frustrated too if the wait was that long. I was fortunate in that I joined my clubs while still waiting for my licence, then waiting for my first restricted transfer - so a lot of the "wait" time was "waiting" for all sorts of things - not just the course and ATT.
 
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