The 270 Winchester and old myths.

The difference between shooters is a helluva lot more significant that the difference between calibers.

I'd put money on a good hand packing a .30-30 over a nimrod with a .378 MegaMag Wizzum Whatever. A .270 is as good or bad as the man who's using it.
 
Why not? said:
BUM, as you and quite a few more of us well know, the "slim pickins" of only eight bullets for the 9.3 is more than enough. I got along with just one, the 286 gr Norma DC, for more than 25 years, and could still manage with just that bullet weight. This further illustrates the point that enormous variety in choice of bullets is, as Supercub mentions, moot.

Ted
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I've tried two - 286 TSX which wouldn't go over 2000FPS no matter how much powder I crammed in and the 286 Norma, which is just awesome. I do have a box if Hornadys because, well, why not move 50lb of assorted component bullets every two years! Besides, at the rate I'm going the box of Normas you gave me will last even longer!

Gotta get hunting!

crazy_davey said:
Get it back on track guys or closed it will be.

Thanks!
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Dude, you want a "why is the 270..." thread to get back on track? You're either being relentlessly optimistic or the dryer vent has clogged and you're getting CO'd to death!

This thread is awesome!
 
I used to be of the opinion that Jack O'Connor got carried away with the .270; while it made a nice deer/sheep cartridge I thought it was lacking in other respects. I have come to realize that O'Connor was probably right all along and the .270 is suitable for any NA game that can be killed with 18" of bullet penetration. With today's premium bullets, concerns of bullet failure have become almost irrelevant, and any mono-metal or bonded core bullet, with MVs between 2900 and 3200, will kill the biggest game you find. My opinion these days is that any modern cartridge of 6.5 or larger, loaded with an appropriate bullet, is suitable for any big game hunting, in that the bullet has a reasonable expectation of killing a game animal with a single shot, from any angle, within the range limitations of the cartridge and shooter. Today I own no .270 caliber rifles and previously I've only owned 3 .270s; a Mauser 98, a Remington 700, and a Browning A bolt. Life long prejudices are difficult to overcome, no matter how misplaced they might be.
 
Tumbleweed said:
The difference between shooters is a helluva lot more significant that the difference between calibers.

I'd put money on a good hand packing a .30-30 over a nimrod with a .378 MegaMag Wizzum Whatever. A .270 is as good or bad as the man who's using it.
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Nimrod: 1. A mighty hunter. Now chiefly used in this sense outside the United States. 2. A slow-witted person.
 
We have quite a few rifles in stable but it's funny how many times my old .270 BBR gets taken out. Between me, my kids, my kids friends and such it's probably shot 200 deer-a couple antelope-some bear, some moose, alot of coyotes and even one good sized buffalo-I shot him once with a 130 grain federal and he didn't twitch. Ty is buying an Xbolt .270 as soon as he gets the dinero saved up-it's served us well.
 
I have a love/hate relationship with the .270 Winchester.

It's a fine cartridge that I've used for years on all sizes of animals. I've loaded bullets from 115 grain V-Max to 150 grain Partitions. The .270 Winchester has never let me down.

I hate it because I live in the part of Ontario that has calibre limitations and .275" is the uppper end. (Yes, I know the .270 is .277" but the regulation is based on the rifle not the bullet.)

Were it not for this I'd have a 7mm Magnum and a 7-08.
 
My specialties and knowledge tend to be more in the old 19th century cartridges, personally I like 45-70 on everything...like ketchup. :p

But I have to admit, something has been brewing in me for over a year now that has made be want to have a 270. The thing is though, its gotta be in an old gun, like a 1950's Model 70....mmmm. The cartridge does look appealing, and I am sure that its just as effective as many others as long as you are shooting accurately and all that jazz.

From all the contributory and useful comments I have seen here, its worth having one!
 
Bittermansbro said:
Its funny you mention that Kevan, I have a box of Imperial 300 Savage and was wondering what KKSP is/was?
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KKSP stands for Kling Kore Soft Point, a type of bullet that CIL / Imperial used in several chamberings. The lead core was actually crimped into the bullet casing.
Having used it in several different rifles I found it to be an excellent hunting bullet and a very accurate one as well.
The batch I currently have shoot very well in my 270 and 270/08 easily matching or exceeding any modern day bullets tried.
Will try to post some pics if I can remember where my camera is hiding.. :)
 
Yes, KKSP was a very good hunting bullet, but my favourite CIL bullet was the CPE, Copper Point Expanding. It was an excellent pointed design, good for longer ranges. I have shot a few moose with it and I think it was every bit as good a bullet as is the Nosler Partition. In the 30-06 it immediately expanded, but hung together and really penetrated.
 
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