ATT's what you need to know
- Thread starter Slavex
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Got mine for Manitoba, completed the application on a Thursday morning and it was in my mailbox Friday afternoon. It specifically lists the registration certificate numbers of the guns I'm allowed to move. It is for "Winnipeg Revolver and Pistol Assoc. and all other approved ranges". There is no mention of gunsmiths or border crossings, although I am 100% certain I put them on my application. I will need to double-check that but it would suck if it broke and I had to get a STATT just to bring it in somewhere.
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- 42 Band of Eight Central
The SN of your firearm is personal and private information that NO club needs nor is required to collect.
Ownership of a res is NOT required to get a LTATT. No where within our laws is that stipulated regardless of whatever BS the CFO attempts to spew.
In addition you CAN and should do your own LTATT which is 100% legal and ensures with the help of the FAQ's available online that you get an ungimped one. The BS "policy" from the CFO to have it done by your club is complete total BS.
Also your LTATT not only can but SHOULD be Canada wide. There is no "good pr proper reason" to restrict the travel of a law abiding and licensed citizen within Canada. C-68 is Federal and the only reason your LTATT would be less than Canada wide is again "policy" from the CFO.. which is again NOT law.[/QUOTE]
If you are traveling, couldn't you do a course in another province or territory? I guess there are not enough people interested to justify an instructor coming in to give the course?
French people are not trusted with firearms. You know in the storage laws it states you can store your firearms in a locked case with a trigger lock, or in a safe that was designed for firearms.
Well the storage laws written in French says that even if you store them in a gun safe or vault that they still need to be trigger locked.
So imagine a French speaking Provincial cop inspecting an English guy's home safe. French cop thinks you are breaking the law. I got a copy of the English storage laws right there inside my safe just in case.
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Your last paragraph is very interesting. Here in Quebec you need a seperate ATT for everything. If I want to stop on the side of the road to pee on the way to the range, I would need to ask for an ATT with a permission to pee on it in advance, then they would tell me that is not a valid firearm activity.
Non. Your interpretation is skewed.
Well unfortunately my French is not fluent enough for that, but they guys at the club I shoot at in Montreal informed me on this one.
Gimme a break!
For the ATT for each destination, I don't know about you but I need one for my club, another for a gun smith, another to bring a new gun home from the store, shoot at another club, etc.
If I am permitted to move restricteds, then let me do it for any relevant reason.
My job keeps me travelling all the time, and this has caused difficulties in the past. If I have an ATT to already transport the many guns I own, I shouldn't have to go home and wait for the mail man to bring me my permission slip.
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
Your last paragraph is very interesting. Here in Quebec you need a seperate ATT for everything. If I want to stop on the side of the road to pee on the way to the range, I would need to ask for an ATT with a permission to pee on it in advance, then they would tell me that is not a valid firearm activity.[/QUOTE]
Interesting but again not true. Even w/megans law and the added BS from QC this is not the case. ATT's are governed by the federal C-68 laws... so anyone in QC giving u grief over the aspects thereof other than as impacted by the BS QC laws then show them a copy of the federal laws.. and they can kiss your ass.
If the QC CFO gives you grief file a formal grievance and appeal any and ALL BS they try to pull.. only with #'s again will such BS get changed.
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- 42 Band of Eight Central
Again... such ATTs are GIMPED and that can be fought quite easily.
Alberta ATT
Ok some stuff being said about Albertas ATT is different then what i experienced. So here goes.
This year I purchased 4 handguns. For the first one all i had to show was my PAL ( has both non-restricted and restricted certifications) and my club membership. I had the firearm mailed to my address. I didnt have to call anybody and a long term ATT showed up in the mail, good to travel to any range or gunsmith in Alberta as well as border crossings. Expires when my PAL expires. I didnt have to call a CFO or anything. The registrations just showed up in the mail. It was like clockwork. The other three purchases were done by mail as well and were hassel free.
Ok so i just sold one of my handguns. So what happend was the buyer never had a restricted firearm before and had no long term ATT, so he had to fax a copy of his club membership to the CFO of the province, he already had the PAL for restricted firearms, and the CFO emailed him a Temporary ATT. I kept the gun in my possession until he got that tempoary ATT as it was still in my name. We were given a reference number where we could call the CFC to check on the progress. It only took two days, mostly due to his work schedule. He showed up and had the temporary ATT as well as the longterm one. I confirmed this with the CFC, he paid me and that was it done deal. Yesterday I got my copy of the notice of transfer in the mail. If he had owned restricted firearms already and had a long term ATT , the transfer would have been done in minutes over the phone. This was last week so i doubt anything changed. Only thing i found strange was when doing the transfer on the phone, i already had all the info that she would want, ie the buyers name, address, PAL number, Registration number of the firearm being sold, the firearm number, the serial number, the barrel length etc... She asked to speak to the buyer, just so happend he was sitting next to me so it worked out.
Ok some stuff being said about Albertas ATT is different then what i experienced. So here goes.
This year I purchased 4 handguns. For the first one all i had to show was my PAL ( has both non-restricted and restricted certifications) and my club membership. I had the firearm mailed to my address. I didnt have to call anybody and a long term ATT showed up in the mail, good to travel to any range or gunsmith in Alberta as well as border crossings. Expires when my PAL expires. I didnt have to call a CFO or anything. The registrations just showed up in the mail. It was like clockwork. The other three purchases were done by mail as well and were hassel free.
Ok so i just sold one of my handguns. So what happend was the buyer never had a restricted firearm before and had no long term ATT, so he had to fax a copy of his club membership to the CFO of the province, he already had the PAL for restricted firearms, and the CFO emailed him a Temporary ATT. I kept the gun in my possession until he got that tempoary ATT as it was still in my name. We were given a reference number where we could call the CFC to check on the progress. It only took two days, mostly due to his work schedule. He showed up and had the temporary ATT as well as the longterm one. I confirmed this with the CFC, he paid me and that was it done deal. Yesterday I got my copy of the notice of transfer in the mail. If he had owned restricted firearms already and had a long term ATT , the transfer would have been done in minutes over the phone. This was last week so i doubt anything changed. Only thing i found strange was when doing the transfer on the phone, i already had all the info that she would want, ie the buyers name, address, PAL number, Registration number of the firearm being sold, the firearm number, the serial number, the barrel length etc... She asked to speak to the buyer, just so happend he was sitting next to me so it worked out.
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
Better than ON in some ways
However the fact is again you both are playing the BS game from the CFO's regarding membership which is NOT law.
- Location
- Lower Mainland
hey guys, just bought my first pistol, and have recieved my long term att, but the shop won't let me pick up my pistol until they recieve the short terrm att. Does that make sense to you???? From what I thought, the long term allows you to transport to any CFO approved range, in BC/Yukon to any gunsmith, so in other words, back to the shop I bought it from, yet I can't pick it up with a long term....................AS I am new to the whole restricted side of things, unless I'm totally out to lunch, could someone please explain the why I can't pick it up????
Cheers,
Foxy
Cheers,
Foxy
They are correct(and you are wrong...sorry) the AAT is for to/from Range, competition and Border crossing...nothing else (around here anyway)
example I have 3 ATT's (prov. does differ no biggy) one for my Range, one for competition (IPSC my case) across Canada (need to be supported with a match invitation for each match) and one for all border crossing...that mean Airport/Train and Boat.
If I need to ship a gun via the post office I just call and they send me (fax/email)an ATT for that....the same for pick-up at a shop gunsmith or any else then what my original ATT says.
example I have 3 ATT's (prov. does differ no biggy) one for my Range, one for competition (IPSC my case) across Canada (need to be supported with a match invitation for each match) and one for all border crossing...that mean Airport/Train and Boat.
If I need to ship a gun via the post office I just call and they send me (fax/email)an ATT for that....the same for pick-up at a shop gunsmith or any else then what my original ATT says.
You should pose this question to your Member of Parliament.
Your MP should be able to answer this.
Members of Parliament
http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/MembersOfParliament/MainMPsCompleteList.aspx?TimePeriod=Current&Language=E
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- 42 Band of Eight Central
Wrong!!!!
Unless his/her att is massively gimped then it should be valid both TO and FROM a destination that is authorized.
That includes a shop etc etc... so long as it is from X... and ...most importantly TO his/her home which is authorized. The point of pickup is NOT what matters... but rather the destination.
Hence how you can BORROW a restricted... but not return it to it's owners residence directly.. unless your ATT allows such... but said owner can pick it up at your address and go home via reasonably direct route.. etc etc
Mind you we all know the entire ATT etc is a steaming pile... etc etc..
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- 42 Band of Eight Central
If you have 3 separate ATTs for that again as per usual in Canada your CFO is ####ing with you.
Time to get off your ass and fight back against this horse ####.
All of the above can be EASILY covered under one ltatt...
