poacher, what to do?

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wood800 said:
Heard a hunter calling in deer today on the wooded property behind my house, I suspect its the owner or his buddy, season closed 18 days ago! Should I call on this poacher? How far would a bow hunter have to hunt from my house to be legal? There are a lot of houses backing onto this wooded area. Thanks
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If this in fact a serious concern call the professionals and let them deal with the menace.
You know a case could be made for poaching..check out the regs for your area and the definition for hunting,
If the game season id closed and the someone is attempting to lure an animal ....
I'll leave the speculation for :popCorn:
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Check the regs, here in Sask :

Hunting includes taking, wounding, killing,
chasing, pursuing, worrying, capturing,
following after or on the trail of, searching
for, shooting at, trapping, setting snares for,
stalking or lying in wait for any wildlife,
whether or not the wildlife is subsequently
captured, wounded or killed.

See what your regs are, most likely they are not within the law, make the call to the CO's.
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You would do those things if you were trying to take pictures of wild animals. But I suppose if all you had was a camera a CO would probably do no more than tell you to stop, because if it came to court a judge would probably decide the law wasn't intended to make photography illegal.

I don't think I would go looking for the fellow calling deer out of season, especially on some one else's property because it's not my business to go looking for confrontation, on my own in the wild, with someone I expect to turn out to be armed and committing a crime. If you feel it should be reported, take care to report no more than you know, i.e. you didn't see someone poaching, you heard what sounded like someone calling deer. The COs can judge if that sounds like enough to look into it, as opposed to some other matter that they should be looking into.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Check the regs, here in Sask :

Hunting includes
following after or on the trail of, searching
for, or lying in wait for any wildlife,
whether or not the wildlife is subsequently
captured, wounded or killed.
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apparently photographing wildlife out of their legal hunting season is illegal in Saskatchewan

cheers mooncoon
 
Though I haven't looked into it, I expect the 'kicker' in most cases will be whether the person has in his possession the means of capturing or killing the animal he is 'following', 'searching for' or 'lying in wait for', i.e. a firearm, bow, spear, etc.
 
wood800 said:
Wow, can't believe how many people would just turn a blind eye and allow this. Between poachers and coyotes our population of deer is down from years past, the guys that just would do nothing you are lowlifes.
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Then YOU should have already called CO.

That guy might or might not be calling in deers at your neighbor's property, but you are for sure calling in other fellow hunters here to trap them to show your "higher" moral standard.
 
wood800 said:
its not his yard, its a mixture of river woods and a hay field, went and looked this mourning, found 2 stands with no hunter, lots of deer and human tracks, a salt lick is in a clearing in view of a stand. He must be just practicing! Its a real cold one today, we will see if I catch him.
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Did YOU contact the owner for permission first? If so, why didn't you ask him if he knows what's going on there?
 
The point of this whole thread is that the OP didn't/doesn't know whether or not the fellow calling deer planned on harming the deer. It's exactly the same as someone seeing a gun in a vehicle, then calling the police. All of us on here condemn this, yet here, in a very similar situation, a whole bunch are saying to call the law enforcement people.
We are not turning a blind eye to poaching, or poachers.
Common sense tells me that no landowner, or friend of the landowner, in a well populated area, is planning on killing a deer out of season.
There is no law against calling a deer, or practicing calling a deer, and that is all the OP knows the person was doing.
So why would he even think about calling the game department?
 
H4831 said:
The point of this whole thread is that the OP didn't/doesn't know whether or not the fellow calling deer planned on harming the deer. It's exactly the same as someone seeing a gun in a vehicle, then calling the police. All of us on here condemn this, yet here, in a very similar situation, a whole bunch are saying to call the law enforcement people.
We are not turning a blind eye to poaching, or poachers.
Common sense tells me that no landowner, or friend of the landowner, in a well populated area, is planning on killing a deer out of season.
There is no law against calling a deer, or practicing calling a deer, and that is all the OP knows the person was doing.
So why would he even think about calling the game department?
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Like I posted earlier in this thread...people can't wait for a chance to play the hero.
 
wood800 said:
its not his yard, its a mixture of river woods and a hay field, went and looked this mourning, found 2 stands with no hunter, lots of deer and human tracks, a salt lick is in a clearing in view of a stand. He must be just practicing! Its a real cold one today, we will see if I catch him.
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Not sure where you're located, but it's illegal to disrupt a lawfully conducted hunt here in Ontario. If he's after coyotes, you could get yourself in trouble on this little crusade of yours.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
I'd be careful approaching someone , not telling what they are up to. Hope for the best expect the worst. This is why we pay our taxes , let the wildlife enforcement figure it out for ya. Just safer for you. If it is someone actually poaching, what is gonna stop them from from doing something to you if they are already breaking the law? Like others have said you cannot assume, but that is a two way street.
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Ya, because assault or worse is pretty much on the same level as poaching...:rolleyes:.
 
gps said:
Not sure where you're located, but it's illegal to disrupt a lawfully conducted hunt here in Ontario. If he's after coyotes, you could get yourself in trouble on this little crusade of yours.
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not 100% true. You have to have the INTENT to interfere with legal hunting.. if you are going out to check on this person to make sure he is not poaching, you are not INTENDING to interfere with a legal hunt. (Eg coyotes) you intention is to make sure he is not poaching. Slight but important difference.

This could easily be handled by talking to the land owner and saying.. "Hey.. I heard your buddy in the back woods the other day, and noticed that deer season was closed".. is he hunting?? "I'm only asking cause I was concerned that you might get in trouble just in case some was going on".. and take it from there..

IF poaching was going on, I'm pretty sure the land owner wouldn't want it as well, and let him check with the guy so you don't have to confront him. Plus the land owner now knows you have an "eye open"..



Obstruction of hunting, trapping or fishing

13. (1) A person shall not interfere with lawful hunting, trapping or fishing by,

(a) tampering with traps, nets, bait, firearms or any other thing used for hunting, trapping or fishing;

(b) placing himself or herself in a position, for the purpose of interfering, that hinders or prevents hunting, trapping or fishing; or

(c) engaging in an activity, for the purpose of interfering, that disturbs or is likely to disturb wildlife or fish.
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The way I see this is,

A) If he's native american then he's allowed to take deer.

Calling a warden on him would cause more problems.

B) Taking a picture of wild animals.

C) Hunting yotes.

D) Or maybe poaching.

Frankly the way I see it it's better to hear nothing and see nothing. That way you stay healthy.
 
Well took my quad for a ride down river that goes through this property, saw someone with a bow in a stand, I pretended not to notice him, and kept going, was not trespassing as I never left river. So you guys think he's just coyote hunting? Mayby! What if CO confronted him and he said bowhunting coyotes? I knew he was hunting all fall and that never bothered me, but season is over and that does.
 
gps said:
Not sure where you're located, but it's illegal to disrupt a lawfully conducted hunt here in Ontario. If he's after coyotes, you could get yourself in trouble on this little crusade of yours.
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This statement confuses me a bit. What would happen if more than 1 person was attempting to harvest the same animal? I know I've pushed big deer off into thick stuff after I've seen someone else watch them.(never during the season but several times before the season opens)
 
wood800 said:
Well took my quad for a ride down river that goes through this property, saw someone with a bow in a stand, I pretended not to notice him, and kept going, was not trespassing as I never left river. So you guys think he's just coyote hunting? Mayby! What if CO confronted him and he said bowhunting coyotes? I knew he was hunting all fall and that never bothered me, but season is over and that does.
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I think this guy is on to something.
I have had yotes come into a fawn/doe call.Very good possibility he it yote hunting IMO. I have not tried it while yote hunting, but after you brought this up I will be giving it a shot.I would give this chap the benefit of the doubt.

Sounds to me you are being over concerned about what someone else is doing. Sometimes it's just better to mind your own buisness.
 
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