shooting on my own property?

mlehtovaara said:
I call BS on this!

There is a thread right now about storing firearms in ones detached garage. Someone on this thread is claiming that the CFO has approved such a thing. So theoretically you are allowed to carry your guns from your house to your garage.

If your garage was 100m from your house that is 100m you could be shooting all the way assuming you lived in an area where firearms can be legally discharged!



My ATT does not say house at all it just lists my address! My address is defined as the property lines surrounding my property, not just the physical building that is on that property.
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1. Although the ATT doesn't state "the dwelling at (address)" it has been established that the place of storage is just the dwelling and its attached structures, not the entire property.

2. Since the ATT is an authority to transport it would be a good bet that it covers transporting the guns from the dwelling in which they are authorised to be stored to a vehicle in which they are going to be transported, so that would include a detached garage in which the vehicle is parked. (An attached garage is part of the dwelling.)

3. The instance you refer to in which someone got a CFO's opinion that he could use his detached garage for storage doesn't necessarily mean your ATT authorises transporting restricted guns from the garage (registered place of keeping) to your house. In fact if your house is not a place mentioned on your ATT, not an approved range, and not a gunsmith's premises, logically that means you can't transport your restricted guns to your house if the building you keep them in on your property is not attached to your house, e.g. a detached garage.


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the funny thing is a handgun has less range than any rifle im gonna shoot and its not as loud, not as dangerous, etc, oh well i just need to get a membership to a range in the next little bit. from the sounds of it some ranges require you to shoot for x amount of times or x amount of months with a member before being considered for a membership, some have safety courses that they charge you to take, which is ok i guess but seems like a cash grab more than anything else. almost makes me not want to shoot the handgun.[/QUOTE]

Yes dumb laws arent they. You can shoot a 30-06 on your own property but not a handgun with way less power and range. Dumb laws, like how you can get a 25 round mag for a 10/22 but an AR-15 has to have its 30 round mag pinned to 5. DUMB!
 
I clearly saw him break into my gun safe and load a shotgun when I put three in his ass. true story :D

yeah the laws are ####ed. I can shoot a rifle that will kill a person at 1500 yards but not a hand gun. gotta love our governments way of thinking.

the pinning thing is great. our American friends can get 150 round drum mags and some states even allow full auto guns yet if those liberal sluts have it their way were gonna need an att to bring a .22 rifle that's bolt action to the range
 
uchi said:
wow the gov is clearly ####ed up much worse than i originally thought they were. needing an att to bring the gun into the back yard. #### me i hope if someone ever breaks into my house and i get to my handgun they dont leave the house cause i cant legally chase them with the gun in my hand, lol.
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I hope for your sake no one ever robs you...and only because you would be looking at some time chasing someone around with a firearm. Stupid comments like that is why were always fighting a uphill battle for our right...the reasonable person thinks all gun owners are irresponsible
 
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Having a handgun for defense purposes could be a lawful reason for owning one if you can show that you need it. Most of us can't, so handguns for defensive purposes are forbidden, so is loading a handgun anywhere other than an approved range.
 
This topic is both fascinating and disturbing. What the hell has happened to this Country?
I remember being 14 years old in the early 90's with my Dad teaching me to shoot his old 1911 behind the house. After that I shot it all the time.
I have not had a handgun since 98 (when the BS really started) apart from being issued the occasional old Browning at work when required.
Lately I have been getting the urge to have a 1911 again and I will get one (Pop sold his years ago) but my god, the bullsh*t we have to put up with now is astounding.

I should add that we lived in the bush back then.
 
Stray bullets are a problem, the whole idea of having controlled shooting is that it can be done with near 100% safety. Sh&t happens and even on your own property you don't know for sure if there is someone in the woods behind your target, could be someone wandering around out there and gets hurt or killed.
I live in a city and there is nowhere around here that would be safe to shoot except an indoor range, out in the sticks there may be lots of safe places to shoot but people tend to shoot where it is not safe and so they and the rest of us are banned.
There are more people per square mile (kilometer) than ever before so a stay bullet has a better chance of hitting someone.
If the laws as they exist now seem draconian just imagine what they could become if innocent people are hurt or killed due to people shooting where they should not!
 
Just to set the record straight. Restricted firearms can ONLY be fired at an approved range. It sucks but it is true. You can get your property approved though and a number of people have.
 
Skinny 1950 said:
Having a handgun for defense purposes could be a lawful reason for owning one if you can show that you need it. Most of us can't, so handguns for defensive purposes are forbidden, so is loading a handgun anywhere other than an approved range.
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clearly thats the case, i wont use mine for home defense anyways ive got something much better than that if it comes down to it, i was making winter conversation as all the board im on seem to be a little slow this season. :)
 
Slavex said:
Just to set the record straight. Restricted firearms can ONLY be fired at an approved range. It sucks but it is true. You can get your property approved though and a number of people have.
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Can you provide any documentation supporting this (Firearms Act, Criminal Code)?

My interpretation is that a restricted firearm can be discharged where it can be possessed. A restricted can be possessed at a range, and at your home. To get a restricted to your range, you need an ATT, but an ATT has nothing to do with possession in your own dwelling.

Unless you are located in an area that has a no shooting bylaw, you can shoot in your own house. As an extension, as long as it is safe, you can shoot from your house (indoors) to the outdoors.

Remember, unless it is specifically proscribed as illegal, it is legal.
 
all the more reason we're safer shooting handguns

Skinny 1950 said:
Stray bullets are a problem, the whole idea of having controlled shooting is that it can be done with near 100% safety. Sh&t happens and even on your own property you don't know for sure if there is someone in the woods behind your target, could be someone wandering around out there and gets hurt or killed.
I live in a city and there is nowhere around here that would be safe to shoot except an indoor range, out in the sticks there may be lots of safe places to shoot but people tend to shoot where it is not safe and so they and the rest of us are banned.
There are more people per square mile (kilometer) than ever before so a stay bullet has a better chance of hitting someone.
If the laws as they exist now seem draconian just imagine what they could become if innocent people are hurt or killed due to people shooting where they should not!
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Skinny 1950 said:
Stray bullets are a problem, the whole idea of having controlled shooting is that it can be done with near 100% safety. Sh&t happens and even on your own property you don't know for sure if there is someone in the woods behind your target, could be someone wandering around out there and gets hurt or killed.
I live in a city and there is nowhere around here that would be safe to shoot except an indoor range, out in the sticks there may be lots of safe places to shoot but people tend to shoot where it is not safe and so they and the rest of us are banned.
There are more people per square mile (kilometer) than ever before so a stay bullet has a better chance of hitting someone.
If the laws as they exist now seem draconian just imagine what they could become if innocent people are hurt or killed due to people shooting where they should not!
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Wow! What if, what if, what if! You do realize it is perfectly legal to shoot a 50 bmg in your backyard assuming you have the property, and no local bylaws right?

Post Fail!

uchi said:
all the more reason we're safer shooting handguns
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Yes, exactly! Rifle bullets carry a lot further with a lot more energy! If anything they should be encouraging us to shoot handguns instead, if the above posters theory is true.
 
Skinny 1950 said:
Stray bullets are a problem, the whole idea of having controlled shooting is that it can be done with near 100% safety. Sh&t happens and even on your own property you don't know for sure if there is someone in the woods behind your target, could be someone wandering around out there and gets hurt or killed.
I live in a city and there is nowhere around here that would be safe to shoot except an indoor range, out in the sticks there may be lots of safe places to shoot but people tend to shoot where it is not safe and so they and the rest of us are banned.
There are more people per square mile (kilometer) than ever before so a stay bullet has a better chance of hitting someone.
If the laws as they exist now seem draconian just imagine what they could become if innocent people are hurt or killed due to people shooting where they should not!
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While I may agree with your intent I think you are wrong in your conclusions. The reason hadnguns are relegated to ranges is State control.

There are certainly denser populations in our cities and along the 49th. Some areas of rural Canada are more heavily populated but there remains a large segment of this country that is void of population or where it is completely safe to discharge a firearm. We still hunt in this country.

The US is void of our stupid guns laws for the most part and they seem to manage quite well. Handgun hunting is actively participated in many States. Why not here?

I think you will find on balance most firearm owners are very responsible citizens who are quite capable of deciding where it it is safe to shoot and where it is not. I am not so sure we need Gov't employees funded by the taxpayers to tell us where we can and cannot shoot. Believing otherwise has led us to where we are today with our gun laws.

Take Care

Bob
 
FrankieT said:
Can you provide any documentation supporting this (Firearms Act, Criminal Code)?

My interpretation is that a restricted firearm can be discharged where it can be possessed. A restricted can be possessed at a range, and at your home. To get a restricted to your range, you need an ATT, but an ATT has nothing to do with possession in your own dwelling.

Unless you are located in an area that has a no shooting bylaw, you can shoot in your own house. As an extension, as long as it is safe, you can shoot from your house (indoors) to the outdoors.

Remember, unless it is specifically proscribed as illegal, it is legal.
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Can you provide any documentation supporting this (Firearms Act, Criminal Code)?
 
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