500 yards with a .308? possible?

Blayne, he's right. Your article talked about raising the rear sight to increase distance, which is true. You can easily figure this out, it's not hard to understand. If you raise the rear sight on the rifle, yet keep at the same elevation, then the only way to get the target in the sights is to tilt the gun up so that the front sight aligns with the rear sight and the target. You are actually shooting an arc with the bullet rising to cross through the line of sight and then falling back through it. Your theory would work if you could magically change elevation every time you adjusted the rear sight, but I can't jump that high :)
 
:cool:Proveing once again that you can't read.:rolleyes: Never once did I claim that the bullet was riseing relative to the line of bore. It does rise relative to the line of sight because it is directed toward it. As for it being impossible for a bullet to rise relative to the earth, have you ever shot uphill?:p Keep digging........................
 
Dogleg said:
SteveK,
You're takeing the fun out of it, I was sitting here seating 300 grain SMKs wondering how deep a hole he was going to dig.:D
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Bwhaa ha ha!
Me too! :D

Must be a new engineer or something?
Or worse yet maybe a short engineer?

Schooled by an old dog redneck....Get used to it kid. :D
 
Blayne said:
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So I take it this means this Blayne finally realized what you guys were trying to tell him was right? I would have used the baseball analogy, when you're in the outfield throwing for home plate, you're looking right at the plate, but seeing as we can't throw at 5,000fps we can't aim there... And pretty sure that ball will rise relative to the earth, then drop, but will drop constantly relative to the plane of the angle it was initially thrown at. Hopefully Blayne's still reading this and the lightbulb will come on. Not often you get equations thrown down to attempt to outsmart something most folks figured out about trajectories in little league, good for a smile though!
 
WOW! guess I opened up a can, hope everyone is still friends. I don't see how the .308 has the velocity to do alot of damage at 500+ meters like my 300mag. would? Less re-coil would be desirable.
 
With today components and equipment lots of long range possibilities are within reason. What kind of "damage" are you expecting to cause at 500+ meters??? Holes in paper or animals???


69mustang said:
WOW! guess I opened up a can, hope everyone is still friends. I don't see how the .308 has the velocity to do alot of damage at 500+ meters like my 300mag. would? Less re-coil would be desirable.
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That's a tall order to be able to do ethically... Not much reason to take a 500 yard shot at a deer. Elk, perhaps, but I'd never shoot one that far out even if I was sure of the shot. A lot can happen in the half km across the valley. Guys brag about 550 yard shots, etc etc, but don't talk about the extreme risk of f'ing up and what happens when you wound a deer or elk a half km away...? I'm sure it would be found... :rolleyes:
 
The 308 is a fine cartridge but not at that range,I'd look to the 300 mags or the 340 wby type of catridge.But I'd never shoot at an animal at that range,I can't imagine a situation where a hunter can't get inside 300yds.
 
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A true "hunter" is one who gets as close as they can to harvest the animal in the quickest most ethical way.

FYI-If you are in it for the thrill of shooting a long ways just to say you killed something from "X" meters away, you won't find yourself amongst friend in these forums.

The guys that are doing it have been doing it for years and have tested and calibrated gear for such endeavors. Can I hit an animal and kill it from varying long distance?Yes. Do I? No. There is a lot that can go wrong the farther away the shot becomes.

If it's thrill and excitement you are looking for, see if you can call a moose into close range and listen to them comming at you like a brinks truck going through the garden center at Canadian Tire.

Anyways, long enough speech from me. In the end it is your choice.



Ardent said:
That's a tall order to be able to do ethically... Not much reason to take a 500 yard shot at a deer. Elk, perhaps, but I'd never shoot one that far out even if I was sure of the shot. A lot can happen in the half km across the valley. Guys brag about 550 yard shots, etc etc, but don't talk about the extreme risk of f'ing up and what happens when you wound a deer or elk a half km away...? I'm sure it would be found... :rolleyes:
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I am building rifle to use on a 600 yard long cut line I have. The rifle is being purpose built for this one hunting location and target shooting. I have chosen the 308. Everything needs to be just right to shoot this far, the correct bullet, a long bbl, accurate high velocity load, very little wind, range finder, verified and repeatable scope to dial up yardage and practice. A 308 will just barely hold enough velocity out to 600 yards for hunting in my opinion but the chances are that I will put 5x more rounds down range having fun with a 308 than a 300 mag.


The next one will be a 7mag.....
 
Urbanhuntr said:
Its possible... killed a whitey this year at 550 yards. She ran about 10 yards before going down, and ranged her from where the shot was fired to her and it was 562 yards.
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Was there a reason that you shot at this distance? Its less stalking and more long range shooting, should you wound it it already has a 500 yard start on you, is that really right?
I can understand if you want to practise at distance but surely you owe it to the beast you are about to harvest to make it as dead cert as possible!
 
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