.270 stopping power

Sellect all the game in Canada could you ethically use .270 (loaded appropriately)

  • Coyote

    Votes: 490 90.6%

  • Deer

    Votes: 494 91.3%

  • Elk

    Votes: 438 81.0%

  • Caribou

    Votes: 459 84.8%

  • Moose

    Votes: 447 82.6%

  • Black Bear

    Votes: 442 81.7%

  • Grizzly Bear

    Votes: 188 34.8%

  • Mountain Lion and other wild cats

    Votes: 451 83.4%

  • Other (please name below)

    Votes: 69 12.8%
  • Total voters
    541
Jamie Black R/T said:
cause the internet heros and general media would have you believe a 150gr projectile from a .270 will bounce off an elk at 50 yards yet a 180gr from a 300WSM will not only penetrate but destroy both shoulders, remove both lungs and cut and wrap said elk before you can walk up to it.... :stirthepot2:
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To bad that wasn't true, it would have made much less work for me this year. Oh wait I used a 150gr bullet in a 300 win mag so theres my problem.:D
 
The 30-30 cartridge in various grain bullets has killed every land mamimal on this planet more than a few times around as has the brit 303, the 270 is better in many ways so whats the f^&king problem?
 
hillmanr2 said:
The 30-30 cartridge in various grain bullets has killed every land mamimal on this planet more than a few times around as has the brit 303, the 270 is better in many ways so whats the f^&king problem?
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The 30-30 and the 303 are prehistoric, and anything associated with them is redundant.
In what year, can it be said, that the 30-30 has been surpassed by other modern updated calibers... in numbers of killed game?.:D

I think we should stop the bull s#!t now on the 30-30 and its likes for taking what seems like most big game.... sorry, its not true anymore.:p
 
7mmlefty said:
The 30-30 and the 303 are prehistoric, and anything associated with them is redundant.
In what year, can it be said, that the 30-30 has been surpassed by other modern updated calibers... in numbers of killed game?.:D

I think we should stop the bull s#!t now on the 30-30 and its likes for taking what seems like most big game.... sorry, its not true anymore.:p
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Yes that was my point, if "prehistoric calibers" have proven to kill everything at one time or another why is the 270 even a question on NA game.

As far as things not being true anymore, I am confused. So back then they did in fact take big game, but due to developments they did not in fact take big game?

Strangely enough many, many people still take big game with muzzle loaders, 303b, 30-30, 45-70 and other old calibers. Apparently the animals are not aware these out of date calibers can't kill anymore:p
 
AlexF said:
Be serious, you have to be nuts to use 270 against a grizzly!
Famous african hunter Bell killed 400 elephants with a 160gr solid 7mm Mauser but hundreds of hunter have died trying to kill one elephant with a 7mm Mauser!

A lot of Alaskan professional hunting guides carry .338 Win Mag and the minimum recommended load for grizzly protection is 220gr round nose 30-06, with the recommended load being 250gr 338 Win Mag, 300gr 375 H&H Mag, and 500gr 458 Win Mag.
We're talking 3000-5000 ft-lbs with a 0.300 sectional density here.
The bullet has to incapacitate the grizzly instantaneously!

Were not talking about a moose or an elk charging here, we're talking about a giant 500 - 1000 lb predator with humongous claws. Failure is not an option!
Alex
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Internet armchair FAIL of the year post. The .270 will take anything that walks on North American soil. End of quotation.
 
Yup. I would stack a .270 Win launching .277 Barnes 140 gr TSX against anything on this continent. I don't "have the parts" to chase a grizzly, nor do I hunt in areas where they might prowl, so pretty much a moot point for me.
 
Can't shoot grizzly bears here no more, 270. 280 .30-06 are basicaly all the same, I have shot bears that dropped with the first hit, and coyotes that I needed to put 2or 3 into to kill them, shot placement is key, but I am sure Jack killed everything with a 270, anyone know if he ever took a grizz with the 270 back in the day?
 
All of the above.

I did have to chuckle at the "stopping power" title.

The .270 win is a very good all around cartridge in hunting scenarios, I never think of it in terms of a "stopping power" cartridge. I'd hunt grizzly with one, but it wouldn't make my list of "bear defense" cartridges.

Maybe I'm just in a mood, but "stopping power" and "hunting" I kind of think are two different things. Like hunting bears with a bow, but not wanting a bow to be what you've got to "stop" one that is charging you...
 
Some people do hunt grizzlies with the .270. I personally wouldn't because in my mind you can't guarantee that the shot will always be taken at a comfortably long range to avoid a close encounter, but to each his own.

The .270 is a great cartridge, but I'm not a huge fan personally. I prefer the 7mm-08 to fill the same role and my purchasing choices reflect that. IMHO you're getting similar performance with noticeably reduced powder volume and recoil with the slightly smaller case, slightly larger bore, and slightly quicker powders. Performance may not be identical, but very close!

Red
 
my best freind has shot 3 grizzlies now with his 270 all 1 shot kills,all 3 bears did not know we were there. all were shot under 100yards not one went more than 50yards.last years bear was 8'6 between 750-800lbs ran 30yards & piled up all were double lung shots.i have seen him shoot a bunch of moose & many other critters never one issue he is a good shot though.
 
You forgot about antelope so I voted for them under other. I have used 270s on moose, elk, whitetail, mule deer, antelope and coyote. Even gophers when we used to start practicing early for big game. If they are loaded up right I think 270s are one of the best all around gun.
 
I have to add, my .270 hit a wolverine so hard, it flipped it over and it landed 5 feet from point of impact. Dead.
Several wolves have given up the ghost for me also. Dead.
3 moose. Dead
7 caribou. Dead
2 blk bears. Dead.Deader.
The .270 has always been an awesome killing round, it only gets better with the premium bullets we now have these days.
 
As newshot (OP) said - loaded with the appropriate bullet the 270 will take any North American big game or varmint - in the hands of a patient and competent shooter. Yes, many of us prefer a larger calibre for grizzly or moose, however, it is a matter of personal preference as to the calibre used. KJM Bell did use the 7mm Mauser effectively for all African game BUT he used properly constructed bullets, was confident with the rifle and KNEW where to shoot them!! Worried about bears? A 270 that a person is confident with would work just fine!!

Be confident, use the right bullets and SHOOT STRAIGHT!!
 
.270 is almost perfect as an all-around caliber. 30-06 is the parent case and has better bullet selection.

Personal choice, but I went with a .270. If you can't kill it with a .270 because you missed your first shot, a bigger caliber will miss just as easily.

Small ##### syndrome I suppose when people feel the need for bigger guns.

Shoot what you are comfortable with, and gain absolute proficiency with it. That is the best advice of all.

I get a little 'flinchy' with my .270 as felt recoil is a lot sharper than the 'push' of a 30-06.

But there is something about that ultra fast, ultra flat .270..... it's a laser at 100, pretty damn good at 200 and at 250... well 250 is beyond reasonable engagement of any game animal IMHO.

Quick Clean Kills is the name of the game. If they drop after running 100 meters... well that just isn't right.
 
the swedes are using 6.5*55 for moose and brown bear since more than a century so the 270 should be good too but maybe the new animals are made with kevlar plates ....
 
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