IPSC Production gun question
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its not unsafe to load a mag in to a firearm that already has the slide in the closed position to lower the hammer, and as long as your pointed down range .
if your firearm is manufactured with out the disconnect, then yes you can remove it, but if its not then no you can not.
I'm sure someone eles will put there input on this too.
if your firearm is manufactured with out the disconnect, then yes you can remove it, but if its not then no you can not.
I'm sure someone eles will put there input on this too.
just make sure to have an empty mag on you when you finish a stage.
When RO says "unload and show clear" remove mag, draw and hold slide back to show RO empty chamber.
When RO says "if clear, hammer down and holster" insert empty mag, dryfire, remove mag, and holster.
This isn't much of an issue as long as you practice these procedures. To deactivate a magazine safety would take you out of production.
It also doesn't hurt to remind the RO of your magazine safety every time just to make sure there aren't any surprises.
When RO says "unload and show clear" remove mag, draw and hold slide back to show RO empty chamber.
When RO says "if clear, hammer down and holster" insert empty mag, dryfire, remove mag, and holster.
This isn't much of an issue as long as you practice these procedures. To deactivate a magazine safety would take you out of production.
It also doesn't hurt to remind the RO of your magazine safety every time just to make sure there aren't any surprises.
Yeah, that's what I thought. The SR9 is not produced without the mag disconnect so I guess I'm hooped.
I only have 5 mags so I'm not going to be carrying any of them empty simply for the "unload and show clear" command. What I'll probably do is remove the current mag (which should be down 5 or 6 rounds anyway), thumb the ammo into my pocket and then use the now empty mag to drop the striker.
I guess it's not as big of a deal as I initially thought it would be.
Thanks for the input guys.
I only have 5 mags so I'm not going to be carrying any of them empty simply for the "unload and show clear" command. What I'll probably do is remove the current mag (which should be down 5 or 6 rounds anyway), thumb the ammo into my pocket and then use the now empty mag to drop the striker.
I guess it's not as big of a deal as I initially thought it would be.
Thanks for the input guys.
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From talking to old IPSC shooters I have been told that according to the rules, Once the RO has given the command If clear ahmmer down and holster, You close the slide and theoretically you can use a loaded mag to "drop the hammer". The gun will not go bang. If the gun goes bang you are DQ'd. You will probabbly only get away with this with experienced RO's.
From talking to old IPSC shooters I have been told that according to the rules, Once the RO has given the command If clear ahmmer down and holster, You close the slide and theoretically you can use a loaded mag to "drop the hammer". The gun will not go bang. If the gun goes bang you are DQ'd. You will probabbly only get away with this with experienced RO's.
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Can't you stick you finger up inside the magwell to disengage the safety? I bet if you figure out where the safety contacts the mag you can hold it in the fire position and pull the trigger.
Just another option.
Just another option.
I thought about this as well but I'm sure some "Safety Sally" would throw a fit if she saw a loaded mag go into a gun after the "unload and show clear" command.
I'll look into that once the gun gets here but I highly doubt my fingers are long enough.
I'm no "Safety Sally", but the practice of inserting a loaded magazine into the unloaded-shown-clear pistol - to then drop the hammer - is a bad idea.
If you are really 100% certain that the chamber is empty, and therefore believe that you can be 100% certain that the pistol will not discharge when drop the hammer...well, you might as well point it at your head while you do it too.
Mag safety
Just came back from provincials this weekend. A couple of guys had guns like that. They just gave the RO an empty mag at the beginning of the stage, so that the RO could verify empty. When they finished, and showed clear, the RO gave them back the empty mag so they could insert and hammer down.
Just came back from provincials this weekend. A couple of guys had guns like that. They just gave the RO an empty mag at the beginning of the stage, so that the RO could verify empty. When they finished, and showed clear, the RO gave them back the empty mag so they could insert and hammer down.
no it's not a bad idea at all. Slide is forward, insert full mag, pull trigger, gun doesn't got bang, remove mag and holster. pretty simply and totally safe. if the gun goes bang, then it was the steps leading up the slide closing that caused that problem, not the inserting of the mag after the fact. Rounds don't just magically get into the chamber.
What difference does it make if the mag is empty or not. It's the chamber that matters.
Empty mag...loaded chamber...DQ (and the slide locks back)...
Full mag...loaded chamber ...DQ and another round is loaded in the gun.
Now walk through the same process with an empty chamber
Empty mag...loaded chamber...DQ (and the slide locks back)...
Full mag...loaded chamber ...DQ and another round is loaded in the gun.
Now walk through the same process with an empty chamber
Rob, I'd agree with you, if we're talking about experienced shooter. But lots of beginners are unconsciously incompetent and may just rack the slide after inserting a magazine on a pure reflex.
