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rem338win said:
But back to the original posters intentions! Here is a piece of classic Weatherby goodness with all the fine details Roy loved to share with his perceptive and tasteful clients.

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Or a piece from another talented American gunmaker with his own proprietary line, and has gone to the Great Maker in the sky,

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I will take the Crown Custom anyway over that fugly Remcota ;)
My $1300 CZ is nicer looking ;)
 
rem338win said:
Seriously? Really? No it doesn't. That is why Roy had to add freebore.



All of them originally (at least the ones developed in the 40's). They didn't have powders available to facilitate the speeds he was claiming. You know, there are books out there on the subject of cartridges, and specifically Weatherby and his line. They have facts in them, and are actually interesting reads.



And how many Weatherby's do you see in the hands of the Professional Hunters that live there day in and out and rely on their rifles to survive? Nearly none as they have an pervasive reputation as unreliable, and in fact if the don't have a double it is very likely they are carrying a Mauser, BRNO or Winchester Model 70 actioned rifle, and rarely ever in a Weatherby cartridge. Roy also had some very epic failures in Africa, and at this point the majority of Roy's theories created on those trips have been debunked. No Africa for me, but last I checked, the plumbing on the animals here is the same.

Fail indeed.
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The only reason these "professionals" use Winchesters is because they are cheap and disposable rifles ;)

Name one epic failure of the Mk V....
There has been NUMEROUS failures of Remchesters though ;)
 
rem338win said:
Well said. Really, I am only having a bit of fun. The rifles are ugly, but the cartridges work, and Roy was the man who gave us the North American belted magnum. He was an epitome of entrepreneur.
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I don't find the 'apperance' of most Weatherby rifles appealing either but he was somewhat of a leader of inovation in his day. There must be something to be said concerning his cartridge development as for the most part, many of them seem to have withstood the test of time. It'll be interesting to see if some of the cartridge developments and inovations coming out today can say the same down the road.
 
444shooter said:
I will take the Crown Custom anyway over that fugly Remcota ;)
My $1300 CZ is nicer looking ;)
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You started life blind and are slowly evolving sight then?

444shooter said:
The only reason these "professionals" use Winchesters is because they are cheap and disposable rifles ;)

Name one epic failure of the Mk V....
There has been NUMEROUS failures of Remchesters though ;)
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Those comments are worth hanging on the wall. The last thing a PH wants is cheap and disposable. Most of them invest more into the rifles they carry every day than they do on vehicles to get something that guarantees it works. The link that Stubblejumper posted is epic enough for them.
 
I am pretty sure that Roy Vincent uses a MK V 460 or did for many years. I think he was making his own cartridge now but I can't remember.
 
I have only heard of two complaints about a Weatherby MK V from a fellow who has forgotten more about rifles then anyone on this site will ever learn. When this man spoke, you listened and you learned but he was still very humble. His opinion was he would never own a rifle that used the sear as a bolt release like on a .22 rifle. He also did a bit of a test and found only 3 or 4 of the locking lugs actually engaged anything inside the barrel. With that being said I have always wanted a MK V Ultralight in .270 Winchester. I have owned a .300 Weatherby and actually quite liked it. It recoiled far more pleasantly then my .300 Winchester did and that radiused shoulder or the belt didn't bother me at all. It gave me no issues to load for and the only thing I can whine about is the price of brass. If you don't like it, so be it. Lots of folks don't like the .308 or .30-06 much either. :)
 
rem338win said:
You started life blind and are slowly evolving sight then?



Those comments are worth hanging on the wall. The last thing a PH wants is cheap and disposable. Most of them invest more into the rifles they carry every day than they do on vehicles to get something that guarantees it works. The link that Stubblejumper posted is epic enough for them.
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Yeah, that link was informative. The highly touted M700 was trashed pretty bad. I have owned Mk V's for close to 20yrs and have fired hundreds of rounds through them and NEVER had one go off when disengaging the safety or had a round stick in the chamber. Not once!
The author was quite slanted towards Mausers. High end custom ones at that.
 
444shooter said:
Yeah, that link was informative. The highly touted M700 was trashed pretty bad. I have owned Mk V's for close to 20yrs and have fired hundreds of rounds through them and NEVER had one go off when disengaging the safety or had a round stick in the chamber. Not once!
The author was quite slanted towards Mausers. High end custom ones at that.
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Our climates are actually quite easy on firearms, and not many of us use guns as tools like those folks, so when they have a comment on the function of a specific firearm model, it is a good idea to listen. I personally started with a Model 700 and will be the first to say they are easy to maintain and very accurate, but a working gun....in some circles. They are just easier to look at and not nearly as chunky as a Mark V.:cool:

The author, and many others, are harsh on quite a few of the North American manufactured firearms as well as the newer Euros. The article explains it well. Lucky for me, I rarely am placed in high stress do or die hunting scenarios, so I will continue to like the Model 700, Sako's and Sauers.
As many professional hunters and guides with grey hairs under their belt will tell you, a Mauser, or Winchester (essentially the same thing) well finished and stocked is the most reliable of the bolt action tools made. The reason quite a few grey hairs on this site adore and hoard the Browning FN's and certain Husqvarnas. The pre 64 Model 70's speak for themselves.

Given the fact that I am putting up such an awful stink against the Mark V, I should probably hope the beholder of this eye's tastes don't change with age, or yet again I will become a hypocrite;)
 
I am not a Weatherby fan myself but can appreciate the fact Roy was an innovator and firearms genius. I think anyone who would call him "the gimmick master" would have his facts straight. For instance, I just talked to D'Arcy Echols the other day and you can have a Legend in your hands in under a year. Also, Chuck is speaking of the wood stock D'arcy built and sent to McMillan to use as the basis for his synthetic stock. He is not talking about high end synthetics being "worked" or hand checkered.
 
264magnum said:
I am not a Weatherby fan myself but can appreciate the fact Roy was an innovator and firearms genius. I think anyone who would call him "the gimmick master" would have his facts straight. For instance, I just talked to D'Arcy Echols the other day and you can have a Legend in your hands in under a year. Also, Chuck is speaking of the wood stock D'arcy built and sent to McMillan to use as the basis for his synthetic stock. He is not talking about high end synthetics being "worked" or hand checkered.
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Ok, so did you order a Legend then or just shooting the breeze? I don't have the guys phone number to bother him about people yapping on the intranet so your the expert.
I do have a close friend that owns two of his Legends and he waited a total 2 years for the first and 2.5 for the second. That was over 5 years ago now for sure. I would guess that when your country is exiting the largest recession since the thirties the lead time on your $10k synthetic rifle might shorten or you might expand shop when your stinking busy. My bad.
Darcy crafted that original Legend for McMillan like over 10 years ago, I had no idea Chuck the lucky dude held the original. And for the record you can have a hand laid blank done in that manner, we had Eddie Mech convinced to do it at one point.
How's your stuff?
And as innovative as Roy was, he still liked selling gimmicks.
 
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