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Recently (yesterday!) attended my first IPSC match (needed it for the BB qualifier so I can continue to shoot multi-gun) after doing my black badge back in February.

I was blown away by the constant string of malfunctioning pistols, from open guns all the way to an apparently stock Glock.

Whats the deal with this? I have ~2500 rounds through my 9MM Sig P226 E2 with a TLR-2S and not one malfunction, no stovepipes, no nothing.

I only ever shoot factory ammo, and longest it has ever gone without cleaning was 500 rounds.

I know my round count is relatively low, but still ...
 
P90Puma said:
Recently (yesterday!) attended my first IPSC match (needed it for the BB qualifier so I can continue to shoot multi-gun) after doing my black badge back in February.

I was blown away by the constant string of malfunctioning pistols, from open guns all the way to an apparently stock Glock.

Whats the deal with this? I have ~2500 rounds through my 9MM Sig P226 E2 with a TLR-2S and not one malfunction, no stovepipes, no nothing.

I only ever shoot factory ammo, and longest it has ever gone without cleaning was 500 rounds.

I know my round count is relatively low, but still ...
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my glock = zero. (not counting the one squib which was my fault)
 
I'm guessing...but probably guns that have been "improved" but not tested. Either through aftermarket parts or gunsmithing. Probably some poor quality ammo thrown in also.
 
0 so far for both my gen4 glock22, and sig p226 elite stainless in 40S&W. A lot of ipsc malfunctions are due to factors other than the gun itself from factory, different "improvements" like weaker springs, different "target loads" and bad attempts at fast reloading, etc. All of the above can affect reliability.
 
I rarely get malfunctions, but it does happen on occasion. Maybe 1/2000 of my reloads has a screwy piece of brass, say.

What is funny is that probably half of the people you saw having malfunctions are people who have been in here telling us their Para/STI/CZ/etc/etc/etc has "never jammed once in thousands of rounds".

Yeah, heard that before...seen the truth before too!
 
As mentioned, its poor reloads, or home smithing that's usually to blame. As for me and my Glocks, zero malfunctions in over 35,000 rounds on the one, 2500 on another, and about a 1k on the three spares.

TDC
 
in any modern pistol stoppages should be rare as hens teeth

I trust my Sig and Glock just as much as any revolver
 
TDC Why do you need spares if your primary never malfunctions???:stirthepot2:

I had a P16-40 that had choked on some bad handloads. Other than that I had/ witnessed four malfunctions and I would attribute them to limp wristed or one handed shooting.
 
Comil_1983 said:
TDC Why do you need spares if your primary never malfunctions???:stirthepot2:

I had a P16-40 that had choked on some bad handloads. Other than that I had/ witnessed four malfunctions and I would attribute them to limp wristed or one handed shooting.
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Malfunctions are not the same as parts breakage. I've only ever needed new recoil springs(as per normal) and I've replaced one broken trigger spring. I have no doubt my Glocks will run for many years to come, but I'm not so sure I'll be able to replace a broken Gen3 with another many years from now. Spares/multiples are always nice to have, especially in Canada where parts and repairs can be difficult to obtain.

TDC
 
No malfunctions so far in about 600 rounds of shooting, one cleaning. Norc 1911. That includes 185gr truncated cone target loads to 230gr +P JHPs.

I have seen a few malfunctions on the firing line, but nothing serious, lots of user error (not seating mags properly, limp-wristing) and the occasional feed problem with an improperly sized reload.
 
Onagoth said:
my glock = zero. (not counting the one squib which was my fault)
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Same, with 8000 on a G34.

I'll say one thing: When I give my pistol to another (even experienced) shooter at my range 80% of the time it will jam, or not eject, or the mag will fall out.
One may wonder why? Because their grip SUCKS balls. I have to constantly show them how to hold the pistol. There are fingers covering the slide release, palms pressing the mag release in, limp wristing.......etc, etc.

It almost makes me laugh sometimes :rolleyes:
 
TACTICAL111 said:
Same, with 8000 on a G34.

I'll say one thing: When I give my pistol to another (even experienced) shooter at my range 80% of the time it will jam, or not eject, or the mag will fall out.
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A stoppage is a stoppage, doesn't matter who is running the gun. So how exactly do you have zero?

I know I will get some malfs in the future, I should probably induce some to get the practice clearing the malfunction.
 
ammo not loaded properly, extractor or ejector problems, mag issues, or over sprung recoil springs/ systems.
 
P90Puma said:
A stoppage is a stoppage, doesn't matter who is running the gun. So how exactly do you have zero?
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Because I know to properly grip the pistol. Simple. Of course it matters who is running the gun.They are COVERING the slide release and depressing the mag release. What do you think is going to happen?

This Sat at the range I fired roughly 500 rounds (with 0 issues), took a break by which time 2 friends showed up. One owns a G20, the other a G35.
The first picks up my pistol, loads my ammo in a mag and after the 1st shot it JAMS. Clears the jam, shoots another and JAM. I then show him what HE was doing wrong . After that he didn't have another issue.

The second guy picks it up (with my ammo) and the SAME thing, but this time the mag fell out as well. I proceed to show him what HE was doing wrong......and no more issues.

I then proceed to fire another 250 flawless rounds through her.

Understand now? :rolleyes: In my personal experience, 80% can't shoot worth a sh**t
 
TACTICAL111 said:
Because I know to properly grip the pistol. Simple. Of course it matters who is running the gun.They are COVERING the slide release and depressing the mag release. What do you think is going to happen?

This Sat at the range I fired roughly 500 rounds (with 0 issues), took a break by which time 2 friends showed up. One owns a G20, the other a G35.
The first picks up my pistol, loads my ammo in a mag and after the 1st shot it JAMS. Clears the jam, shoots another and JAM. I then show him what HE was doing wrong . After that he didn't have another issue.

The second guy picks it up (with my ammo) and the SAME thing, but this time the mag fell out as well. I proceed to show him what HE was doing wrong......and no more issues.

I then proceed to fire another 250 flawless rounds through her.

Understand now? :rolleyes: In my personal experience, 80% can't shoot worth a sh**t
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I agree. If you've had 0 stoppages, you've had 0 stoppages. It's kinda like me giving my rifle to my wife, and calculating her best 5 round group in with mine and averaging them out. I won't get a proper grouping.

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If anything it'll be better because she's the better shot. ;) :HR:


Back to topic. I've had quite a few. I've only had 150-200 rnds though my new 1911 and I've had a couple FTE's and FTF's.. I'm pretty damn sure that's my fault.
 
Side note: Your firearms don't "JAM" they experience a stoppage or malfunction. Jam is right up there with clips as far as ignorant terminology goes.

TDC
 
M&P9 22,000 rounds one failure (squib load, my fault)
Norc 1911C 6,500 rounds Zero Failures

Also, re the discussion about spare parts; when you actually shoot pistols and run them hard, parts do wear and should be replaced, this is called maintenance. If you shoot 1,000 rounds a year it'll take a while, but if you shoot 2,000 a month it'll come around right quick.
 
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