seriously... why is black badge training so expensive?

I was under the impression IPSC members elect their representatives and Canada has one vote when it comes to issues requiring a vote. Seems like a democratic method to me.

Right Canada has one vote..........with thousands of members

USA has one vote .......with tens of thousands

Meanwhile........Umma Umma GAVA ( i could not be bothered to look up a small member) has 1 vote with 20 members.

Democracy? Umm not really.
 
I see your point but I still think the course is important for if nothing else
"MY" safety. The way to challenge the the test is to complete the whole course. Anybody can look good for a few draws and movements, what I want to know is under pressure and time after a long day at a match are they still safe. Many sports require certain qualifications if you want to play. If you don't qualify you don't play, even to help coach minor hockey I had to take a safety course, a coaching clinic and a speakout class. Aprox 12 hours of my time and $300 later.

The problem is that everybody already "thinks" they are a safe and experienced shooter. Just like everyone thinks they are a great driver and I watch idiots all day long on the road and shake my head. You only have to go watch the line at a general shooters night to see the different levels of gun awarness, safety, etc.. I am not saying you are anyone else is not safe but if you pass the black badge it makes me feel a little more secure that my self or the shooter will be able to have a fun match and go home without any extra holes in us. After all we are playing with real guns and live ammo and some people just are scary with thier gun handling.

As far as cost goes, if you are worried about the price of the course this is just not a sport for you. I watch so many people take the course and for every 10 people who take only one or two actually show up to matches regularly. Shooting sports are expensive in general and IPSC is no exception. If you practice IPDA with 500 rounds or IPSC with 500 rounds it cost the same. As far as fancy gear goes, usually the top shooters are the guys with the basic gear. Really you need a gun that works well and all the time. If the gun isnt reliable you can't win.

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and they charge you $50 to be listed in their 5-gun classification thingy.

Only if you want the framed certificate, nobody forces you to enroll. Given there are only four shooters from Canada who have made the list it hardly warrants a comment but then my daddy is bigger than your daddy.:rolleyes:

Take Care

Bob
 
Right Canada has one vote..........with thousands of members

USA has one vote .......with tens of thousands

Meanwhile........Umma Umma GAVA ( i could not be bothered to look up a small member) has 1 vote with 20 members.

Democracy? Umm not really.

Isn't that why USPSA went with their own rule book? I think Canada has about 1900 members IIRC from the last notice we got. Can't remember.

Take Care

Bob
 
Lol....train wreck happened on first page, now its like watching the trian wreck in 'The Fugitive'...it just keeps going and going....
 
if IDPA is considering rule changes, the scoring system should be TOPS on their list... it really is not a good system...

Really??? Please explain :confused:

I shoot both IDPA and IPSC on a regular basis. I find IDPA scoring works very well for IDPA stages and matches...simple to score and simple to understand all the way through including the posted final results.

As a matter of fact I like IDPA scoring so much I included an option to use it when I wrote the rules for BC MultiGun League: and all my local multigun matches are run with IDPA scoring.

So please....explain what is wrong with the IDPA scoring system?

Maybe I missed something :confused:

John
 
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i love the IDPA scoring system, tho only stupid thing with idpa is the muti gun rules, they look liek somthing out of the 50,s
I have yet to talk to anyone that shoots idpa that does not think the same.
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Just a note about IPSC instructors being paid, they certainly aren't making any money. It about comes even with costs.

Maybe I'm just a rube but I've never received a dime for running the BB course. Course fees in Manitoba pay for course materials, range rental and membership. Anything left goes to the section.
 
I've done both, and I still think its stupid. IDPAs theory and principals do not extend to multi-gun....not IMO

I agree and the rules really don't reflect IDPA in any event. The rules are provisional and I don't see anyone either in Canada or the US actively working on making them permanent or correcting some of the obvious flaws.

Take Care

Bob
 
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