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I'm in! Was waiting for an android app before I did, but now I have a better reason! LOL
so what with all the cheap ar15,s
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I'm in! Was waiting for an android app before I did, but now I have a better reason! LOL
blaxsun
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The SR-15...?
huh, we should start in on keltec owners too. How dare companies make affordable guns
prob xcr owners too because we're driving the price of locktite up.
maybe we should start in on people not buying premium gasoline too. God knows only hoons and street racers use regular.
I know plenty of serious shooters, with money, that choose less expensive options. Does this make them terrible, kid snatching, boy touching, bank robbing, meth cooking, paper poaching, kitten stomping terrorists?
No, they buy what works for them, regardless of price. If they find they need more, they buy more, often passing savings to the next guy.
There's so much gear snobbery in this thread it makes me physically ill.
BBB- if more people bought benelli m4's, you wouldn't be selling 870 upgrades.You might not be selling anything, period.
prob xcr owners too because we're driving the price of locktite up.
maybe we should start in on people not buying premium gasoline too. God knows only hoons and street racers use regular.
I know plenty of serious shooters, with money, that choose less expensive options. Does this make them terrible, kid snatching, boy touching, bank robbing, meth cooking, paper poaching, kitten stomping terrorists?
No, they buy what works for them, regardless of price. If they find they need more, they buy more, often passing savings to the next guy.
There's so much gear snobbery in this thread it makes me physically ill.
BBB- if more people bought benelli m4's, you wouldn't be selling 870 upgrades.You might not be selling anything, period.
Bolivar
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Yes... that's what I was getting at.
Right, I sort a mis-read what you said the first couple of times but I sort of had the right gist. Cool.
North Eastern Arms
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The norc ran all day. Even the Knights went down. I dont think anyone would say that the Knights is sub par because of it. But that day the cheapest AR on the market outlived the best in the market.
Only other rifle that didnt go down was my Swiss... Good thing Im a snob I guess. But then again I paid $3000 more than than norc.. I didnt put 3000 more holes in the paper though.
I dont like norc ARs personally but Im not blind enough, or snobby enough, to say that they dont have their place.
dave at nea great attitude, as I said how many people buy a norc then never another? if thats the gateway that brings people in cool. I think one of your guns will be in my future this spring.
to those trashing the norc because its made in china I agree, there are ovbious issues with supporting china. when for a couple hundred more you can get a made in canada gun. that was not a option untill recently and I am sure nea's sales will increase.
to the douches(you know who you are) saying anyone who buys a norc should hang there head in shame because its made in china how many made in china products are in your home, business or on your person? that could've been sourced from N america or euorope? I tried for years to avoid china products, it is extremely hard to do, many things you would never ever guess contain chinese product (like apple juice for instance, they even ship apple juice for christ sakes)
ps i will also add 20 dollars to ban somebodies IP but the money will have to come from my job or small business got off the welfare and drug dealing just last week (the guys at the range don't know yet so keep it on the low down)
to those trashing the norc because its made in china I agree, there are ovbious issues with supporting china. when for a couple hundred more you can get a made in canada gun. that was not a option untill recently and I am sure nea's sales will increase.
to the douches(you know who you are) saying anyone who buys a norc should hang there head in shame because its made in china how many made in china products are in your home, business or on your person? that could've been sourced from N america or euorope? I tried for years to avoid china products, it is extremely hard to do, many things you would never ever guess contain chinese product (like apple juice for instance, they even ship apple juice for christ sakes)
ps i will also add 20 dollars to ban somebodies IP but the money will have to come from my job or small business got off the welfare and drug dealing just last week
(the guys at the range don't know yet so keep it on the low down)
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"And how many thousands of dollars were spent to upgrade that Norc again before it was used in said CQB matches? were the guts all replaced in that NORC. "
it was right out of the box. it now has a break on it. never an issue and wins often. wins as in first place lol.
why you hate them so much? i bet it would piss you off to be there with your pretty toy and get spanked by a stock norc lol.
i wont even start with my 858 i use lol. bet you hate it too.
it was right out of the box. it now has a break on it. never an issue and wins often. wins as in first place lol.
why you hate them so much? i bet it would piss you off to be there with your pretty toy and get spanked by a stock norc lol.
i wont even start with my 858 i use lol. bet you hate it too.
sly mantis
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Oh no, I've got a cheap nork ar. In fact none of the guns I've purchased have cost over $625. Plus I cast and reload my own ammunition. :O Clearly I must have been a violent, drug dealing gang banger this whole time and not known it.
Better give up my office job and tear up my Unversity Engineering degree since clearly those were given to me by mistake, as someone with my very limited IQ clearly could not have achieved either of those things.
I'll have to prepare for my life of crime and start working on my b*tch slapping hand, as purchasing these low cost firearms clearly makes me a criminal.
To answer BBBs original question: In all honesty, I purchased my nork AR used off the EE for $600 and it came with 10 mags. I saw this as an excellent way to step into the AR world. Do i believe its as good quality as a higher dollar AR. No. But i believe performance per dollar it is difficult to beat and lets me test the black rifle waters. Do i like it? yes although ive only shot it a few times so far. As of now i tend to like my CZ858 a bit better but time will tell.
Will i get another ar? quite possible i believe and next time it will likely be one of teh $1000 ars in teh market.
To BBB I believe that your question started in good intentions but has been taked off tagent by "other forces". I think you started loosing face/support when you began insulting/threating people.
Will I ever by a $3000 AR? Likely not. I am not a special ops/military/leo/security operator, nor am i qualified super mall ninja so my life doesnt not depend on the rifle. My firearm and me are glorified paper hole punchers and my cheap guns do that perfectly fine. If my life depended on it, things might be different and i will have just as much fun with a norc as a colt. Possibly more as i can get alot of ammo to shoot through the norc with the price difference and i think trigger time is more important to being an effective operator than how expensive your gun is.
Also last i checked the military/spec ops guys use the best but that's also because that's what they've been assigned by their unit. They dont buy their own weapons.
Better give up my office job and tear up my Unversity Engineering degree since clearly those were given to me by mistake, as someone with my very limited IQ clearly could not have achieved either of those things.
I'll have to prepare for my life of crime and start working on my b*tch slapping hand, as purchasing these low cost firearms clearly makes me a criminal.
To answer BBBs original question: In all honesty, I purchased my nork AR used off the EE for $600 and it came with 10 mags. I saw this as an excellent way to step into the AR world. Do i believe its as good quality as a higher dollar AR. No. But i believe performance per dollar it is difficult to beat and lets me test the black rifle waters. Do i like it? yes although ive only shot it a few times so far. As of now i tend to like my CZ858 a bit better but time will tell.
Will i get another ar? quite possible i believe and next time it will likely be one of teh $1000 ars in teh market.
To BBB I believe that your question started in good intentions but has been taked off tagent by "other forces". I think you started loosing face/support when you began insulting/threating people.
Will I ever by a $3000 AR? Likely not. I am not a special ops/military/leo/security operator, nor am i qualified super mall ninja so my life doesnt not depend on the rifle. My firearm and me are glorified paper hole punchers and my cheap guns do that perfectly fine. If my life depended on it, things might be different and i will have just as much fun with a norc as a colt. Possibly more as i can get alot of ammo to shoot through the norc with the price difference and i think trigger time is more important to being an effective operator than how expensive your gun is.
Also last i checked the military/spec ops guys use the best but that's also because that's what they've been assigned by their unit. They dont buy their own weapons.
To be fair to every make and model on that lineup, there's much more at play in a FTF/FTE than just the gun. How many of those guns failed due to magazines? How many because they weren't properly lubed? How many because the shooter was using cheap, dirty, cruddy surplus ammo? Also, were there any piston driven uppers there? Hell, for all we know, the Norc owner could've been so paranoid of a failure that he lubed his rifle every 15 mins.
The Swiss is in a different class. Apples and Oranges
Plus, not everyone has the big burly He-Man arms needed to keep the barrel of a Swiss Arms horizontal all day long 
Ar180shooter
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The Swiss is in a different class. Apples and Oranges
I can agree with that after having run my Swiss for two years of CQB and through an OSTS carbine course. The Swiss is many things, but light is not one of them. Mine is 11 lbs and that's just with optics, a cheek riser and a sling. I mean ffs, I don't even have a quad rail on it. Good thing I'm 6'1" and north of 200lbs, lol.
I now have an LMT for CQB, which I will be running next season. It's a hair over 7 lbs with an ACOG on it, so a big difference there...
Aw, I'm a retard and a criminal. Damn. :'(
Definitely isn't. In some 3rd world countries, M16's go for $20. First or third world definitions don't determine costs of living. Switzerland is a great example. Their people are richer than us, but the cost of living is much higher.
Definitely isn't. In some 3rd world countries, M16's go for $20. First or third world definitions don't determine costs of living. Switzerland is a great example. Their people are richer than us, but the cost of living is much higher.
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Quite the contradiction eh?
So if some of us own high end rifles we should be special ops, mil/leo, or some kind of operator... lol
This is the same kind of generalization and mis-judgment you were just arguing against...
Generally speaking, those that are wealthy get that way partly because they spend less than they make, rather than spending their incomes on the appearances of wealth.
That said, I don't think that buying a quality AR is quite the same thing as a flashy vehicle, a boat, etc. The AR is an order of magnitude less expensive and they don't really depreciate much once you take the initial hit on value for a new gun.
The reason so many people who have the means to do otherwise buy lower end ARs is because they a) don't use their guns very hard and b) don't understand the differences. As much as I personally prefer to buy as much quality as I can afford (not always the most expensive) when it comes to firearms, I suppose it is just as well that there are less expensive alternatives available to get people into the game.
I'm sure that many people in the UK said similar things as Liebermuster when the first major restrictions on firearms were implemented.
First off I have not threaten anyone in this thread, actually it is the other way around, so I suggest you read my post or refrain from posting lies as a truth.
Ban your self buddy.
Quite the contradiction eh?
So if some of us own high end rifles we should be special ops, mil/leo, or some kind of operator... lol
This is the same kind of generalization and mis-judgment you were just arguing against...
The only guys that get a rap like this are the ones that blatently come off looking like complete attention whores basking in the light of their own self-indulgence.
Generally, I'm happy for guys who get to buy what they truly want. I wish we all had great wealth and large amounts of disposable income. Who wouldn't want the better things in life it were available to them and within their means to do so?
+1. I'll donate $20 to ban Libermuster. Hell, throw BBB in there and I'll give $50 to the cause...
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Meh, I don't see very much of this going on here. I don't see that kinda of thing going on at the range either. Most are pretty humble about what they have and the guys that share their stuff online are mostly just enthusiastic about their toys. These guys see the value in quality kit and are just trying to spread the word and/or some knowledge, myself included
Point is I guess you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't
I would never buy a Norinco but I am sure glad they are out there and encouraging more people to buy into our sport.
I take OFFENCE to anyone equating someone's morality with their earning potential. I also take OFFENCE to equating someone's IQ with their earning potential. Both arguments are way off base.
MOST rich people in this country got that way because their family has a history of being frugal. You can't save money if you're spending it or in simpler terms "A penny saved is a penny earned."
Oh and Leibermuster you're an elitist piece of ####. Exactly the kind of guy who thinks all Non-Commissioned Members in the CF are less intelligent than the Officers because they didn't get a degree. There are all kinds in this world. I suggest you grow up and meet more people. They may surprise you.
And FFS mods why hasn't the OP been banned yet? He actually threatened a member with physical violence. Nice move for a supporting dealer. S&J will never see a penny from me or anyone else I know.
I take OFFENCE to anyone equating someone's morality with their earning potential. I also take OFFENCE to equating someone's IQ with their earning potential. Both arguments are way off base.
MOST rich people in this country got that way because their family has a history of being frugal. You can't save money if you're spending it or in simpler terms "A penny saved is a penny earned."
Oh and Leibermuster you're an elitist piece of ####. Exactly the kind of guy who thinks all Non-Commissioned Members in the CF are less intelligent than the Officers because they didn't get a degree. There are all kinds in this world. I suggest you grow up and meet more people. They may surprise you.
And FFS mods why hasn't the OP been banned yet? He actually threatened a member with physical violence. Nice move for a supporting dealer. S&J will never see a penny from me or anyone else I know.
sithinside
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My two cents...?
I'm new to the sport. I've always been interested in getting into the firearm scene, and I wanted to start with a platform that's been around the block. I don't hunt, have no interest in hunting (unless I was forced too), and want to know more about firearms from a first hand perspective.
I wanted to start small. An NEA-15 with a lifetime warranty at almost 1/3rd the price of a 'high-end' AR-15? What's not to love?
So far I am loving it. The finish is different than my friends Colt C8, but to each his own, I actually like the slightly grey finish to mine better. I've got about 200 rounds through it and it's shooting amazingly accurate for a newb scrub like me without an optic and just a set of MBUS sights.
At this point, what's going to be the major advantage of me moving into a Noveske?
I want to move into hand reloads, and get a separate upper for .300 Blackout. What can I expect with a Noveske over the NEA?
I'm new to the sport. I've always been interested in getting into the firearm scene, and I wanted to start with a platform that's been around the block. I don't hunt, have no interest in hunting (unless I was forced too), and want to know more about firearms from a first hand perspective.
I wanted to start small. An NEA-15 with a lifetime warranty at almost 1/3rd the price of a 'high-end' AR-15? What's not to love?
So far I am loving it. The finish is different than my friends Colt C8, but to each his own, I actually like the slightly grey finish to mine better. I've got about 200 rounds through it and it's shooting amazingly accurate for a newb scrub like me without an optic and just a set of MBUS sights.
At this point, what's going to be the major advantage of me moving into a Noveske?
I want to move into hand reloads, and get a separate upper for .300 Blackout. What can I expect with a Noveske over the NEA?
Im not that way at all. My father may be, he would buy crappy knives, then a good one, but he cant use it because its too...nice?
What the hell kinda logic is that, I buy quality items and I mean to use them as intended. I sure as hell dont baby my AR.
Never understood that...
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