well so far i have built a brand new lower A2 stock set up, for a total of 205$.
It can be done. I am going for the cheapest i can go, i can wait for deals, i already have another AR to shoot.
My NEA15 bolt carrier, is it OK?
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well so far i have built a brand new lower A2 stock set up, for a total of 205$.
It can be done. I am going for the cheapest i can go, i can wait for deals, i already have another AR to shoot.
well so far i have built a brand new lower A2 stock set up, for a total of 205$.
It can be done. I am going for the cheapest i can go, i can wait for deals, i already have another AR to shoot.
Is this retail parts or used?
you can buy a norq lower for about 250...
and yes if you buy the cheapest parts ever you can have an AR for about 500-700$ depending on your parts... you will need to spend some money on tools, but whatever its fun to put the pieces together,
I paid 994$ for a 7.5 AR premade, with a very nice barrel on it,
next cheapest 7.5 i found was spikes at about 1300-1400
cores are cheaper, but I cant even find a 7.5 one, their longer barrel bare bones packages are about 1100, and last guy who posted on here got one UNFIREABLE out of the box. not supriseingly the same people who turn every "I like my NEA" thread into a "your NEA sucks, no matter what you think because I am an armchair god of AR's" thread turned even that thread to bashing NEA
am I the ONLY person who notices that NEA is not building a bare bones model here? find me one other AR that has that custom angled look, stock oversized trigger guard, free float quad rail and a quality 7.5 "barrel for $994? oh and a lifetime warrenty.
"its too expensive, but I want more expensive features and quality control, " seems to be the mantra...
the real proof is gonna be a year or so down the road when enough people actually OWN these things can say how they performed. then maybe their take on a rifle they actually OWN will stop getting overshadowed by people who dont own one who seem to have an axe to grind.
and yes if you buy the cheapest parts ever you can have an AR for about 500-700$ depending on your parts... you will need to spend some money on tools, but whatever its fun to put the pieces together,
I paid 994$ for a 7.5 AR premade, with a very nice barrel on it,
next cheapest 7.5 i found was spikes at about 1300-1400
cores are cheaper, but I cant even find a 7.5 one, their longer barrel bare bones packages are about 1100, and last guy who posted on here got one UNFIREABLE out of the box. not supriseingly the same people who turn every "I like my NEA" thread into a "your NEA sucks, no matter what you think because I am an armchair god of AR's" thread turned even that thread to bashing NEA
am I the ONLY person who notices that NEA is not building a bare bones model here? find me one other AR that has that custom angled look, stock oversized trigger guard, free float quad rail and a quality 7.5 "barrel for $994? oh and a lifetime warrenty.
"its too expensive, but I want more expensive features and quality control, " seems to be the mantra...
the real proof is gonna be a year or so down the road when enough people actually OWN these things can say how they performed. then maybe their take on a rifle they actually OWN will stop getting overshadowed by people who dont own one who seem to have an axe to grind.
new unused parts, besides the stock. It is used.
That means nothing to your statement then. New parts not from a retailer means used. So things are discounted. Wait for the right used deal and you can buy a new used NEA for the same or less then the one you are building.
huh??? new parts are new parts. Sorry if i chose to buy from members, instead of being hosed by dealers. I maybe saved 40$ on the stock set, so i am still good to go.
here are the other 7.5s available
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1871&bc=no
noveske for 3 grand
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1982&bc=no
spikes for 1,500
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_338&products_id=1403
daniel defense 1500, couldnt even find a 7.5 one
and
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_284&products_id=1309
NEA 1000, and if any of those "soft" screw from Taiwan (someone actually accused NEA of this, with great gusto, however it is not true) NEA has a lifetime warrenty
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1871&bc=no
noveske for 3 grand
https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=1982&bc=no
spikes for 1,500
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_338&products_id=1403
daniel defense 1500, couldnt even find a 7.5 one
and
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_284&products_id=1309
NEA 1000, and if any of those "soft" screw from Taiwan (someone actually accused NEA of this, with great gusto, however it is not true) NEA has a lifetime warrenty
and heres the 189 norq lower minus a buttstock which is sub 50$ if you do it right
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_80&products_id=1112
its funny, people LOVED NEA when they were putting out canadian made parts that were hard to get, now that they decided to put the parts together into an AR they are suddenly crap? I dont buy it, growing pains happen yes, but on the whole they dont deserve all the crap they get.
and I want a free float rail for accuracy, not to hang stuff on, think of it as a free float handguard if you dont want to use the rails, it also has the low profile gas block so you dont have a stupid iron post messing with your optic,
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_24_80&products_id=1112
its funny, people LOVED NEA when they were putting out canadian made parts that were hard to get, now that they decided to put the parts together into an AR they are suddenly crap? I dont buy it, growing pains happen yes, but on the whole they dont deserve all the crap they get.
and I want a free float rail for accuracy, not to hang stuff on, think of it as a free float handguard if you dont want to use the rails, it also has the low profile gas block so you dont have a stupid iron post messing with your optic,
And there you go, a tried, tested, and proven reliable lower for 200$.
yup they do the trick, its all what you are looking for...
chepest gun ever that still works, buy a norq,
bestest gun ever to make everyone jealous, where money is not an issue, buy a noveske
want somthing in the middle quality for a middle price, get a DD, spikes, ect
want a middle quality for a low price? get a core or an NEA
IF you think that is not a properly staked key, its either from lack of knowledge, or jumping to conclusions
yes the stake from the side is very common,
no it is NOT the only way to do it, the side method, dimple, or straight across all work as long as the metal is properly deformed in the correct place.
here is an example of those three methods done right
I do not agree, of course...the chisel approach breaks loose more frequently than most options that I have seen.
If others would like to trust it that is naturally fine but I would re-stake it, as I would re-stake any rifle that came chisel-staked in that manner. Maybe that is ignorance on my part, or maybe it is experience. I am not sure how anyone would be able to discern that my statement that chisel staked gas keys fail more frequently than side-staked keys is the result of my lack of knowledge but for obvious reasons I don't see the point in trying to convince anyone either way.
I have never met anyone, however, who came back after shooting an AR and said, "that was ok, but I wish my gas key staking had been lighter".
Clobbersauras
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Carrier Key Staking tool.
It will do this to the key once it is properly torqued.
All they need to do is to stake their keys with this tool and problem solved...and it's an industry standard staking method.
They can buy it from Brownells for 70 bucks...
ht tp://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=29337/Product/AR-15-M16-CARRIER-KEY-STAKING-TOOL
It will do this to the key once it is properly torqued.
All they need to do is to stake their keys with this tool and problem solved...and it's an industry standard staking method.
They can buy it from Brownells for 70 bucks...
ht tp://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=29337/Product/AR-15-M16-CARRIER-KEY-STAKING-TOOL
beavis_m305
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My BCG was the same as the OP's. Not up to scratch. I was getting FTE on my first range outing. I tightened the screws down hard and staked the key from either side, first tried with a hammer and flat head screw driver. I under estimated how hard the carrier key steel was and did a really #### job. I then did it with a MOAKS tool and it looks even worse. Some of the carrier key material is flat out broken from trying to do a proper job on top of my bubba one. BUT it's on there solid and is not ever gonna move. I'll probably have to use a chisel on the key if I ever want to replace it.
Carrier Key Staking tool.
It will do this to the key once it is properly torqued.
All they need to do is to stake their keys with this tool and problem solved...and it's an industry standard staking method.
They can buy it from Brownells for 70 bucks...
ht tp://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=29337/Product/AR-15-M16-CARRIER-KEY-STAKING-TOOL
That is over staked. you have steel coming over the top of the screw head. Staking is to require more torque coming out then going in, not need a grinder first.
So what you are saying is that you got a rifle that was shipped without a BCG to the supplier that you got it from, and that supplier put a BCG in it, one that you feel was inadequate, and this is NEA's fault?
Am I reading this correct?
You also don't say if this fixed your problem even. And if it was your first trip out then the BCG that isn't NEA's was improperly torqued from the factory. As you mention no notice that they bolts had backed off.
NEA allowed rifles to ship to dealers without BCGs. NEAs fault. NEA allowed a "third" party to supply and install a BCG into their(NEAs) rifle. NEAs fault.
It is NEAs name on the exterior of the firearm, who sources what to put inside it at the factory or otherwise is beside the fact that it is sold as a complete rifle.
There is no one else to blame but NEA, sorry to burst your bubble.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
About builds... I built my PDW for about $1,400. This was a brand new complete Dlask 7" upper with quad rail and a near-new Socom lower with about 200 rounds through. I added the Troy BUIS, PWS CQB compensator, PRI Gasbuster, Magpul/LaRue stock and a few other accessories (mostly internal) for about an additional $600 net (after sale of the original parts).
Even without the "enhancements", for a few hundred dollars more I ended up with kick-a** setup that's lightweight, extremely reliable and runs like a dream. I haven't had any issues with the rails, excessively-heavy triggers or a myriad of problems with BCG's, buffer tubes, FTF or FTE.
Sometimes you can save money and it still ends up costing you more...
Even without the "enhancements", for a few hundred dollars more I ended up with kick-a** setup that's lightweight, extremely reliable and runs like a dream. I haven't had any issues with the rails, excessively-heavy triggers or a myriad of problems with BCG's, buffer tubes, FTF or FTE.
Sometimes you can save money and it still ends up costing you more...
I'm sorry Ryan, but I believe you are confused. Look to the person I was replying to, and quoted. My reply was based on that, not the original post.
