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Should we talk about the 50 million killed by Stalin then?
@ harryhand:
Sir, can you READ? You zip right past SEVEN posts setting the Jap record straight and start accusing people of being Nazi and Jap sympathisers.
This is silly.
This is almost as silly as when I was accused of being a Nazi, in this forum, because I worked with one nearly 50 years ago!
My father always said, "Start brain before engaging mouth!".
It works, believe me!
Sir, can you READ? You zip right past SEVEN posts setting the Jap record straight and start accusing people of being Nazi and Jap sympathisers.
This is silly.
This is almost as silly as when I was accused of being a Nazi, in this forum, because I worked with one nearly 50 years ago!
My father always said, "Start brain before engaging mouth!".
It works, believe me!
In fairness to harryhands, he posted directly after the post by O'Kelly's Boys...
Having said what I did about the Japanese, they are from a non-western, non-Christian culture. Some will sneer, but Christian ideas implanted in the Western psyche over 2000 years have profoundly shaped our perceptions and beliefs, whether we recognize and accept that fact or not. None of that exists in Asia in the sense that the individual is responsible to God for his adherence to a moral and religious code and that his failure or success at living up to that code will result in eternal spiritual reward or punishment. In the case of Japan, the Shoguns recognized that such a code would stand their whole obedience-based social structure on its head: the lowest burakumin would know that he is the spiritual equal of the Shogun and that he must then follow his own understanding of divine will and make his own decisions on what is right or wrong or suffer the consequences for eternity. This is why the shogunate exterminated Christianity in Japan so thoroughly. In WWII we saw all the viciousness of the naked ape, without anything to restrain his primitive capacity for evil and the sadistic pleasures of power. It is easier to objectify those of another race, as WWII reminded us most pointedly.
The point of all that is, that the Japanese acted within their own moral framework: a savage and brutal one, but their own.
A western, traditionally Christian society has no such escape from responsibility for its behaviour, then or now.
The point of all that is, that the Japanese acted within their own moral framework: a savage and brutal one, but their own.
A western, traditionally Christian society has no such escape from responsibility for its behaviour, then or now.
Remember, many German and Japanese thought were being patriotic while committed various atrocities during and before WW 2.
Look at the countries that today make a big deal of patriotism, resulting in an easily manipulated population..
Look at the countries that today make a big deal of patriotism, resulting in an easily manipulated population..
I remember watching a show on history channel a couple of years ago. It was about the declassified plans for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. Forgive me, as some of the details are a lttle rusty. The plan was to invade the southern island, push about halfway up it, for a line of defence and then bulldoze the enfire area between the defensive line and the coast into one big airbase, supply depot, troop camp, and use this it invade the rest.
Ah I remember it now, Operation Downfall. Some interesting reading about it.
Ah I remember it now, Operation Downfall. Some interesting reading about it.
From my understanding, the Japanese Bushido (warrior code) made surrending to an enemy unthinkable; death was preferable. So, in their eyes, any Allied forces that surrenderred were considered "unhonorable" and therefore subhuman, open to any kind of abuse imaginable. They were especially cruel to downed aircrew....
It's some type of airship similar to the Hindenburg.
I have no idea which one it might be, but I suspect this may be a prewar photo. IIRC Germany didn't use any airships during WWII except as barrage balloons, which this one isn't (engines are the giveaway).
I have no idea which one it might be, but I suspect this may be a prewar photo. IIRC Germany didn't use any airships during WWII except as barrage balloons, which this one isn't (engines are the giveaway).
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I believe it is the Hindenburg, but the proportions are skewy. I think the pic is a bit squished. Or it's a crude model of some sort...
The Hindenburg was a long, elegant thing - very beautiful and clean-of-line like most rigid airships were. The pic is post-'33, thus the national flag on the vertical tails...
How handsome she was. Damn shame.
The Hindenburg was a long, elegant thing - very beautiful and clean-of-line like most rigid airships were. The pic is post-'33, thus the national flag on the vertical tails...
How handsome she was. Damn shame.
I believe it is the Hindenburg, but the proportions are skewy. I think the pic is a bit squished. Or it's a crude model of some sort...
The Hindenburg was a long, elegant thing - very beautiful and clean-of-line like most rigid airships were. The pic is post-'33, thus the national flag on the vertical tails...
How handsome she was. Damn shame.
Cool picture over Manhattan! X2 on the sheer beauty of her.
Cheers
Joe
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I don't know that anyone ever made an ugly rigid airship. here's the R101:
The Macon:
The L15 - a German WW1 long range bomber... First one downed by AA and interception over England, 31 March 1916.
No protuberances, minimal chunky add-ons - just a teardrop with fins. Something really aesthetically appealing about that.
The Macon:
The L15 - a German WW1 long range bomber... First one downed by AA and interception over England, 31 March 1916.
No protuberances, minimal chunky add-ons - just a teardrop with fins. Something really aesthetically appealing about that.
Good day GunnutzNew day new picture
Cheers
Joe
http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/...hips-hindenburg-zeppelin-underberg-blimp.html
Dark Alley Dan
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There's something about this that reminds me of the old Thunderbirds show...
Supermarionation! Yay!
