My Rifle Shoots 1/2 MOA at 300 yards/meters All Day! Really? Prove It!

It appears that the discussion about shooting all shots under 1/2 moa or an average are over. The rules will remain unchanged as I want this challenge to be the ultimate challenge. Good luck shooting everyone.
 
Hmm...(5) pages so far and no attempts posted? Obviously, this level of performance is going to be weather and wind dependent. As such, I guess I can't be surprised. Hell, I don't have an easily accessible range that has 300 yards.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Hmm...(5) pages so far and no attempts posted? Obviously, this level of performance is going to be weather and wind dependent. As such, I guess I can't be surprised. Hell, I don't have an easily accessible range that has 300 yards.
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Check out the first page. I tried.
 
Ok, batteries charged, photos taken. Here is the story: I went out to Mission Rod and Gun this morning to try - now Mission is billed as 300m but I don't think the regular non-match target stands are quite there so I always say it is 300 yards and that's what my calculations use - weather was sunny but there was some wind that I felt was a bit tricky.

First off I used my PGW Coyote topped off with a S+B 12-50x56 1/4 MOA P4F and propelling a 155.5 Berger over 45.8 Varget with Norma brass and FGMM primers. While a couple of groups were under half MOA the remainder averaged about .7 MOA so back to the drawing board.

Next up was the rifle I used in the "under 1/2" at 100 Yards" game - Barnard with Kreiger barrel glassed with a S+B 12-50x56 with 1/8th MOA P4F - but with different ammo. For the 100 yard competition I used the Berger 105 VLD's but I feel that the 108's perform better overall so that's what I used today: 108g Berger BT over 30.2 Varget housed in Lapua brass and CCI primers. The results are as follows: EDIT: Numbers in Post redone following proper math - original numbers in pics were rough arithmetic with the simple inches divided by three calculation - proper math brings the size in MOA down which is, of course, even better :)

Target 1 1.101" (0.351 MOA)
Target 2 1.120" (0.357 MOA)
Target 3 1.404" (0.447 MOA)
Target 4 1.462" (0.465 MOA)
Target 5 0.799" (0.254 MOA) Saving the best for last :)

For those interested in mean averages, I calculate this to be : 0.374 MOA

Pictures:

Whole Target To Show No Additional Holes etc

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Closer Look At Target

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Close Up Of Largest Group

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Picture Of Smallest Group

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The Rifles I Used - Coyote and Barnard - As Equipped At Range

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UTG - This was really hard and I appreciate you organising these games. I for one feel that this improves my shooting more than regular practice sessions as in introduces a type of ( good ) stress similar to what one can expect at a match.

Cheers,

Bob.
 
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Good job Tomochan --- I was not going to try this, but weakened last night and screwed another 30BR barrel on a Barnard S - and to the Range this morning with a target to zero at 300M. Just shot two groups one was 1.85" and the other 1.3" ...so think it may be possible, but I have no way of effectively figuring the wind, so my first attempt will need to be very calm and hopefuly warmer than -5C. Also, I really should practice and maybe need to tune the load as one group had about 1" vertical and the other .6" ---is that in the acceptable range for vertical at that distance?
 
Nice shooting Bob, another try and you will make it, I know a lot of people love there PGW rifles but that Kreiger Barnard is a thing of beauty.
Nice to see Grass we won't see it in Ottawa for 2 months
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Nice shooting Tomochan! Congrats on being the first to complete the challenge. I will update the original post with your successful attempt. The only thing I noticed that you did wrong, is your calculation of moa. I could be wrong, but for example on your first group. 1.101 ÷ 3 ÷ 1.047=.351moa. You are more than welcome to change your numbers if you wish. Thanks Rod
 
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Nice shooting Tomochan! Congrats on being the first to complete the challenge. I will update the original post with your successful attempt. The only thing I noticed that you did wrong, is your calculation of moa. I could be wrong, but for example on your first group. 1.101 ÷ 3 ÷ 1.047=.351moa. You are more than welcome to change your numbers if you wish. Thanks Rod
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Ah, yes, thanks Rod - I just did inches divided by 300 x 100 as near enough. Using the proper math the MOA is, of course, smaller ( which is nice ). Since there may be a bragging rights issue down the road I will redo the math to make it better for me :)
 
I had some time today and some loads ready to go...why not give it a shot? I've never shot in any competitions or had any training per se, but I'm always learning and improving and having a great time in the process!

Nice sunny day with some light swirling winds at the PWA Range (Pemberton Wildlife Assn.). I was shooting prone off a Harris bi-pod.

I did not pass the test today, but had a blast and learned a thing or two...forgot to load the bi-pod on target 4 and shot #1 went way high...lesson learned!

The rifle is a G.A. Precision Crusader in .308 with a Nightforce 5.5-22 x 50 scope.
I was shooting 175g SMKs over 42.5g Varget in Hornady Match cases w/ CCI BR-2 primers.

I've only tried 168g and 175g SMKs in this rifle so far...if any of you "experts" out there could suggest some other bullets/powders to try I'm all ears...

I was pretty happy that I managed to shoot 3 out of 5 better than MOA at 300 yards...the first 3 shots on target #1 are one ragged hole...I will try again for sure!

Target 1: 2.155" (.686 MOA)
Target 2: 2.936" (.935 MOA)
Target 3: 3.207" (1.021 MOA)
Target 4: 4.458" (1.419 MOA)
Target 5: 2.479" (.789 MOA)

Average: .970 MOA

Here is the rifle
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Here is the target
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Smallest group
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Underthegun said:
It appears that the discussion about shooting all shots under 1/2 moa or an average are over. The rules will remain unchanged as I want this challenge to be the ultimate challenge. Good luck shooting everyone.
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Maybe not . I have a 10 year old Toyota Echo and the closest place i can get 300 yards is 10 miles in a logging road that's under 3 feet of snow . Likely 6 weeks until i can get in .
 
Tomochan said:
Ok, batteries charged, photos taken. Here is the story: I went out to Mission Rod and Gun this morning to try - now Mission is billed as 300m but I don't think the regular non-match target stands are quite there so I always say it is 300 yards and that's what my calculations use
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Great shooting Bob!!!!!!

Mission is a 300 yard range..............up until a few years ago I though Mission was 300 meters.............I always wondered why my 300 meter dope was a bit off at Vokes....... ;)

Right from the Mission R&G Web site......

RIFLE RANGE DESCRIPTION
The Rifle Range offers 20 covered firing positions on the 300 yard range.
There are 20 competition target butts at the 300 yard point.

There are practice target berms located along the range at 25 meters, 100 meters, 200 meters, and 300 yards.​
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I will attempt this very soon......
 
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