An m14 not a norinco m305

haha49 said:
China $450 springfeild $2500.... ya Ill take the clone..
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china junk......$450 plus, plus, plus, plus...................warranty as far as the front door. Then they go boom.
Springfield.......$ 2k, thats all.....scopes fit, no issues with barrel indexing, cheap stocks, poor machining, head space, and a life time warranty.
Pretty obvious to most but " misery loves company "
 
M14 to be clear is actually an excellent design, and the longest serving rifle in the US Military. SEALS get to pick what they use, of anything pretty much, and they still jobs for the M14.

It's strengths are the reliability, durability, and the best iron sights ever put on rifle. It is also a very natural rifle to hold and fire, as comfortable as the hunting rifles most of us started on. Add to that one of the most important things in my mind, plentiful and affordable parts, barrels, and spares and it's a winner in this man's humble opinion.
 
I've had different Norinco and Polytech M-14/305s since the 1990s. I've never had a bad one yet. A friend of mine used to let me play with his Springfield. I remember looking it over for the first time, very impressed with the finish, noting how much better it looked than the Chinese clones. However, it did not shoot any better than the Norcs we both had. I've only put minimal upgrades into my various rifles, usually just the sights and the op rod guide/USGI spring fix, and have been able to get decent accuracy with good loads. One of my rifles has been on two successful black bear hunts. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Norincos are better than a Springfield, but on a subjective level, they work great for me and I have never broken the bank either.

If I ever win the lottery, I might buy a Springfield, or an LRB.

Right now, I am getting more interested in the Kel-Tec RFB. I am hoping for more cool .308 semis in the future.
 
shooterman said:
china junk......$450 plus, plus, plus, plus...................warranty as far as the front door. Then they go boom.
Springfield.......$ 2k, thats all.....scopes fit, no issues with barrel indexing, cheap stocks, poor machining, head space, and a life time warranty.
Pretty obvious to most but " misery loves company "
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A lifetime warranty? Really? Ever try to take advantage of the "Lifetime Warranty"? - yeah, right.
 
enefgee said:
A lifetime warranty? Really? Ever try to take advantage of the "Lifetime Warranty"? - yeah, right.
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It's likely the best warranty in the firearms business, true lifetime, generally no questions asked. The M14.com forum and google will confirm this for you.

enefgee said:
Really - got a reference from the last 5 years for that?
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Yep

Although the M14 was phased out in the 1960’s, M14 variants are still used in the U.S. military. Navy SEALs started using modified M14s as sniper rifles as early as Vietnam. They have used them in Afghanistan and Iraq, primarily as designated marksman and sniper rifles. Navy SEALs keep the M14 in inventory due to its excellent accuracy, effectiveness at long range, and strong takedown capabilities of the 7.62mm round.

http://navyseals.com/weapons-demo/m14/
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I have taken advantage of the Springfield Lifetime warranty when my trigger failed I sent the whole trigger group back to them on there dime and in 2 weeks I got a call saying that I would recieve a complete trigger group under warranty in 2 weeks time I got it back.
 
Gun Lover said:
I completely agree with you, in fact more than 200%. So, whenever you'd like, just feel free to mail me the cash necessary to buy such a wonderful LRB work of art. I am truly confident I will love it. In the meantime, my cash can only afford the commie stuff right now, two of which didn't cost me even 1/3 of what an LRB goes for here in Canada. Yes, they don't compare, but I can still enjoy shooting them instead of just drooling over the better made ones that I cannot afford, all while missing all the trigger time I'm getting right now. Besides, my rough Norcos aint doing so bad. If I can ever get the darn Photobucket to upload my pics again, I'll post a target to show you what I mean. :)
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Well, Photobucket finally decided to cooperate. Here's a pick of that target shot with my 22" Norc.



Only thing done to the rifle was a spring guide upgrade, and of course I added a cheap scope and scope mount (Bassett low picatinny). Other than that, it's all stock, but very tight compared to my shorty.

And no, I won't say mine is a sub moa gun, yet. I haven't shot it enough to know that, but at least it's very encouraging from such a cheap rifle and a sign there is potential for good accuracy. Also, I consider that a very good group by me, since I can't seem to do any better than 1/2 MOA with a few of my better quality hunting bolt guns. I'm sure a good shooter can get even better results.
 
Ardent said:
It's likely the best warranty in the firearms business, true lifetime, generally no questions asked. The M14.com forum and google will confirm this for you.



Yep
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The Springfield warranty is excellent - if you happen to live in the US, the warranty in Canada is handled through their distributor (post ITAR) that would be RNichols.

A web site isn't a reference - actually, that website isn't a reference, it's more like a fan club.
 
Warranties are useful only to those who shoot factory loads exclusively. I, on the other hand, shoot my own reloads almost exclusively and so should you, if you really want to bring out the beauty in these rifles. So, warranty practically becomes a moot point, unless you get a really F'ed-up rifle from the start. But in that case, any of the Norinco sellers here will make it good for you. So not much to worry, for me at least. :)
 
Gun Lover said:
Well, Photobucket finally decided to cooperate. Here's a pick of that target shot with my 22" Norc.



Only thing done to the rifle was a spring guide upgrade, and of course I added a cheap scope and scope mount (Bassett low picatinny). Other than that, it's all stock, but very tight compared to my shorty.

And no, I won't say mine is a sub moa gun, yet. I haven't shot it enough to know that, but at least it's very encouraging from such a cheap rifle and a sign there is potential for good accuracy. Also, I consider that a very good group by me, since I can't seem to do any better than 1/2 MOA with a few of my better quality hunting bolt guns. I'm sure a good shooter can get even better results.
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Outstanding groups there Gun Lover. You can just barely see the powder burns on the target. JK:p Nice to see the price point at work. Mine is bone stock for iron sight use with ball ammo, but it's great to see the possible potential.
 
LordEvilPepper said:
when was the last time the cup holder, leather seats and top tier speakers stop you from breaking down on the side of the road?
A fully loaded norc is the same as a base level LRB....
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Hmmm never heard of known for constant breakage of korean or other import cars. I have seen many ppl drive american cars and keep fixing it up and end up by road side. Me? I drove reasonable years and sell it before its value is still acceptable and I drive same brand car with different year 2 times in a raw more then 10 years now. Honestly I don't know about chinese cars since they don't even make to market; probably lots of testing suppose to taken to be out of market and korean cars are one of them that has passed those tests and on market for many years.

I thought you were reasonable man but you just went full retarded and considered as asian haters without valid example.
 
Glenfilthie said:
LOL. Well, as an Albertan that has been putting up with the stink of Quebec for decades...I will not buy anything made in Quebec either if I can avoid it. They are both scum sucking commie ******** in my scholarly opinion...and the Chicoms are more price competitive.
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Let me get this straight. You would rather buy something made in a country that ignores copyright laws, has no regard for your safety by an uneducated peasant work force than something made in a province of your own country that has an educated work force, high tech equipment and extensive quality controls.

I may not agree with the politics of some of Quebec's citizens but I'll never deny their ability to design and build high tech equipment well.

I guess you'll be buying a Chinese snowmobile and riding on Chinese made airliners then.
 
I guess you'll be buying a Chinese snowmobile and riding on Chinese made airliners then.

More than likely he is.:)
Made in U.S, Canada, U.K etc means nothing nowadays.
Most companies and manufacturers will out source components to the cheapest source. If they can do it on fighter jets and transport planes why not on a cheap ass gun.
I can remember Jap bikes in the 70s. As they came they were crap, but if you took it apart and rebuilt it properly. well then you had a bike :) Same deal today.
Perhaps they should say "Made in China, Built in ........ "
 
Seafury said:
I may not agree with the politics of some of Quebec's citizens but I'll never deny their ability to design and build high tech equipment well.
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I wouldn't get all pumped up about Quebec and it's amazing manufacturing capabilities, they can't even make a decent grenade.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2004/klaus112504.htm
 
urlong said:
Hmmm never heard of known for constant breakage of korean or other import cars. I have seen many ppl drive american cars and keep fixing it up and end up by road side. Me? I drove reasonable years and sell it before its value is still acceptable and I drive same brand car with different year 2 times in a raw more then 10 years now. Honestly I don't know about chinese cars since they don't even make to market; probably lots of testing suppose to taken to be out of market and korean cars are one of them that has passed those tests and on market for many years.

I thought you were reasonable man but you just went full retarded and considered as asian haters without valid example.
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wow... I wasn't even talking about were it was manufactured.... Hell I don't hate norcs because they are chinese, I hate them because they are manufactured porly with next to zero QC oversight.
As for the cars.... I was refuring to people who pay all the money to outfit a crap car instead of paying the same for the awesome well made car but base line accesories wise. Because it doesn't matter how many cup holders, speakers, or "options" you have, if your driveline is ####.... your driveline is still #### when you attach "premium" things to it. Ironicly.... I hate NA cars and prefur inports because in my experience domestic cars are garbage in comparison to inports.
 
It's funny, this thread is called "M14 not a Norinco"....AFAIR the M14 is a class 12 selective fire
firearm in Canada and Springfield calls their semi-auto an M1A. Does LRB refer to their offering as an M14?
They should probably call it something else to prevent confusion. I love semantics ;-)
 
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