An m14 not a norinco m305
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LordEvilPepper
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I completely agree with you, in fact more than 200%. So, whenever you'd like, just feel free to mail me the cash necessary to buy such a wonderful LRB work of art. I am truly confident I will love it. In the meantime, my cash can only afford the commie stuff right now, two of which didn't cost me even 1/3 of what an LRB goes for here in Canada. Yes, they don't compare, but I can still enjoy shooting them instead of just drooling over the better made ones that I cannot afford, all while missing all the trigger time I'm getting right now. Besides, my rough Norcos aint doing so bad. If I can ever get the darn Photobucket to upload my pics again, I'll post a target to show you what I mean.
just think at $.70 a round how fast you could save up for an LRB... 2 case of ammo and the cost of the norc and base level upgrades and your almost there. mind you... im not sure the norc wil surive two cases of ammo.....
when was the last time the cup holder, leather seats and top tier speakers stop you from breaking down on the side of the road?
A fully loaded norc is the same as a base level LRB....
The problem is, that the Korean automaker keeps getting better. Much like Norinco rifles keep getting better. The Chinese are capable of excellent quality work and tight QC, if the customer demands it and is willing to pay.
Again, you can look at it from this perspective(I would buy the Audi mind you) the Hyundai will get me to work reliably and the audi would get me to work reliably. Over the lifespan of both vehicles, could you reasonably demonstrate how the superior engineering of the Audi was a sound economic decision, or was it just a choice of personal preference?
On what do you base this claim?
There is nothing wrong with a cast receiver it can be as a strong as a forged or a billet receiver if done correctly . There are properties a cast receiver exhibits that a forged or billet won't that causes them to fail when a cast will stand up . Many years ago i had the privilege of talking to Les Davenport of Davenport machine ,along with Bob Reynolds and Dale Adams the subject can up about Forged versus Cast versus Billet crankshafts all agreed that cast crankshafts if done properly will out live a forged or billet crank and the only problem with a cast crank is that it flexs a lot more when you make serious power not like in Top Fuel or Alcohol and yet they survive . Cast cranks can absorb more violent jolts than a forged crank will. I saw a 440 CID engine on a dyno with a cast crank turn out 750 hp before they let loose the 200hp NiO2 kit and the engine reved up to 6800 rpm . The car ran low low 10's to mid 9's and had about 300 hrs on the engine with no problems .
Don't buy Norinco.
You will regret having a toy rifle.
Be patient, save your money and buy a real gun made by the people who designed the gun. Don't buy a junker and put $1000 into it. Do it right the first time.
Firm believer in "You get what you pay for."
Every tool I have will last my lifetime and them some. I refuse to buy junk, because it's insulting to my efforts as a worker. I'm not spending my hard earned money on a Chinese knock off, because I value my money.
If you value the work you've done and the money you've made doing it, I don't understand how you can waste money on inferior products.
Some people will actually defend being cheap and uninformed, and that's fine.
All I know is that I won't buy junk, and if I can stop someone from wasting their money, then I've done a good thing.
You will regret having a toy rifle.
Be patient, save your money and buy a real gun made by the people who designed the gun. Don't buy a junker and put $1000 into it. Do it right the first time.
Firm believer in "You get what you pay for."
Every tool I have will last my lifetime and them some. I refuse to buy junk, because it's insulting to my efforts as a worker. I'm not spending my hard earned money on a Chinese knock off, because I value my money.
If you value the work you've done and the money you've made doing it, I don't understand how you can waste money on inferior products.
Some people will actually defend being cheap and uninformed, and that's fine.
All I know is that I won't buy junk, and if I can stop someone from wasting their money, then I've done a good thing.
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You sir, are uninformed.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Respectfully disagree, as they say, "I'm too poor to buy cheap tools." I built on Norcs a fair bit when younger and less opinionated, used to see them as cheap fun, replaced literally everything. That experience is what made me decide LRBs are a far better investment and use of my time, same as a long time using cheap tools has made me appreciate quality tools. Sounds the same for that fella. One look at the first page of this forum will show he's not that misinformed...
LordEvilPepper
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Under a rusty barge in BC
two norcs I own dieing after less then 300 rounds, and a couple buddies that dropped out of safe spec within 500...
Well I only buy Snap-On or other quality names for tools for work. The Norc may not have the best fit and finish but represents the best value for your dollar. The LRBs are nice, no question and I am thinking I would like to build on at some time. I am not so much of a snob to recognize how capable the M14s is.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
LRB M25 build as of today, I just timed the barrel and will headspace shortly. Krieger barrel, TRW moving parts, Boyd's stock. Total cost as it sits there $2446.38, me doing the work and just regular shopping around for deals, same as I did / would do building a Norc. I spent equally as much building a Norc (twice likely reached that $ figure) and ended up with guns I couldn't sell and frustratingly out of spec.
I would concede if you're not afraid of losing eyes or fingers like I am, I take the risks in other aspects of my life, then Norc may well be for you. But if you plan to build / upgrade over time, just start with the good stuff, I've been there and it won't cost you any more in the end.
I would concede if you're not afraid of losing eyes or fingers like I am, I take the risks in other aspects of my life, then Norc may well be for you. But if you plan to build / upgrade over time, just start with the good stuff, I've been there and it won't cost you any more in the end.
LRB M25 build as of today, I just timed the barrel and will headspace shortly. Krieger barrel, TRW moving parts, Boyd's stock. Total cost as it sits there $2446.38, me doing the work and just regular shopping around for deals, same as I did / would do building a Norc. I spent equally as much building a Norc (twice likely reached that $ figure) and ended up with guns I couldn't sell and frustratingly out of spec.
I would concede if you're not afraid of losing eyes or fingers like I am, I take the risks in other aspects of my life, then Norc may well be for you. But if you plan to build / upgrade over time, just start with the good stuff, I've been there and it won't cost you any more in the end.
Looks great, hope it's a real shooter
Me too, but to each their own. I'm all for being loyal to your brand but you guys saying you have to dump $1000 into a Norc to make it run are dead wrong.
My M14s has done sub MOA with handloads, a hungry clinic, USGI fiberglass stock and a Bushnell scope. Doesn't sound like $1000 dollars of tweaking to me.
beavis_m305
Regular
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I'm basically only willing to pay Norinco money for an M14 type rifle. In my neck of the woods it costs $3.5K+ for an SA M1A. IMO the design is a POS at that price point - I'd rather just buy an AR10 type rifle (for cheaper) that will be superior in every way.
