Possible CZ 858 reclassification?

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tiriaq said:
It would take an OiC to reclassify them as restricted - and the RCMP cannot do that.
They can be reclassified as prohibited, if it is established that they qualify as converted autos. Or if they were easily converted to full auto, within the guidelines established in the SCoC Hasselwander decision.
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what is "they"?

If a few specific guns in one shipment were made from old mil sup parts can they simply blanket ban ALL CZ858s as converted auto?

or would it be specific to that shipment...
 
Any reclassification on the basis of CA status would apply only to guns that qualify as CAs - guns that were made as selective fire, and then subsequently altered to semi only.
If receivers intended for selective fire rifles were used, being altered during manufacture of the rifles, the resulting firearm is not CA. To be a CA, the rifle must have been finished as selective fire.
 
Hi guys I'm new here, I have one of these rifles (restricted)and just wondering say if they did prohibit them what happens next? Are you grandfathered in or would they come and take it? And if they took it
are you s hit out of luck? Because there not that cheap in price. Thanks
 
bitinginfo said:
would you resist if cops tried taking ur guns?
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Nobody would come knocking on your door if you bought one after the long-gun registry (provided the rifle is Non-Restricted) and I say "after" because we still don't know 100% if Non-Restricted records have really been shredded....If Canada is tough enough to have a special forces team (JTF2) then I'm sure there's a file somewhere containing all previous long gun registry data. Again, going back to passing laws that are enforceable.
 
bitinginfo said:
would you resist if cops tried taking ur guns?
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Well that is the difference between some Canadians and our American friends. I wonder what our American friends would do? Do you think they would willingly hand their guns to Obama or any government agent that shows up on their door demanding their property? No.
I wish Canadians would take a harder line. This reminds me of 1992-1994. Liberals and Conservatives banning various black guns. And I can tell you from personal experience, at least in Ontario, I never witnessed such cowardice as local gun owners ditching their AKs, ARs, HKs and FNs ( I am NOT saying everyone Ontario gun owner but alot did this).

I remember going into a gun shop in Toronto in 1994 before the ban and spending $6000 and I bought all the black and red rifles that I could find. I remember a FUDD customer at the counter asking if he could have a word with me. He said "son don't buy those guns, the government doesn't want us to have them, there not hunting guns they are going to come for you, you know." I told the old FUDD to eff off (seriously). I remember talking to the gun shop owner, he told me that everyone east of the Manitoba border were selling and everyone west of the Ontario border were buying. Says a lot about Canadians.
I think we have something to learn from our American friends.
 
Robert777 said:
....He said "son don't buy those guns, the government doesn't want us to have them, there not hunting guns they are going to come for you, you know."......
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Maybe he said this to you because he wanted them all for himself! it's a dog-eat-dog world my friend. There were 8 boxes of .22 Winchester bulk 555 at my local gun shop, and I wanted to buy 2 but the guy in front of me bought them all out. I asked him if he would mind at least letting me have one, and he just turned around and proceeded to pay...the gun shop should have a limit on ammo buying (specially in a case such as mine) and Wal-mart in the U.S has a 3 box-only policy per family, per visit.
 
dalebrown5546 said:
Maybe he said this to you because he wanted them all for himself! it's a dog-eat-dog world my friend. There were 8 boxes of .22 Winchester bulk 555 at my local gun shop, and I wanted to buy 2 but the guy in front of me bought them all out. I asked him if he would mind at least letting me have one, and he just turned around and proceeded to pay...the gun shop should have a limit on ammo buying (specially in a case such as mine) and Wal-mart in the U.S has a 3 box-only policy per family, per visit.
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no...this guy was a FUDD, plain and simple. And getting an COLT AR-15 new in the box $500 was a sweet deal, or a Hungarian AK47 FEG for $250 even better.
 
We should try to stay on topic boyz, Id like to see this remain unlocked.

There is no point talking about any type of resistance of any type, period. Everything you say is monitored and even if benign can and will be used against you for lord knows what purposes. Besides, resistance could be almost anything. Heck, writing your MP is a type of resistance.

I recall one fellow who, and I am fuzzy on this, was having his house taken by the government to make way for something....a highway I think... he said that he would "fight this" so the cops used those words and those words alone to confiscate his firearms. I read it on CGN, in the firearms media section, but man Im too lazy to look it up. Note that "fight this" was likely a reference to legal action and not "violence" per say.

So, 1) watch what you say (dont be baited by "would you resist if cops tried taking ur guns?") 2) stay on topic

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Robert777 said:
Well that is the difference between some Canadians and our American friends. I wonder what our American friends would do? Do you think they would willingly hand their guns to Obama or any government agent that shows up on their door demanding their property? No.I wish Canadians would take a harder line. This reminds me of 1992-1994. Liberals and Conservatives banning various black guns. And I can tell you from personal experience, at least in Ontario, I never witnessed such cowardice as local gun owners ditching their AKs, ARs, HKs and FNs ( I am NOT saying everyone Ontario gun owner but alot did this).

I remember going into a gun shop in Toronto in 1994 before the ban and spending $6000 and I bought all the black and red rifles that I could find. I remember a FUDD customer at the counter asking if he could have a word with me. He said "son don't buy those guns, the government doesn't want us to have them, there not hunting guns they are going to come for you, you know." I told the old FUDD to eff off (seriously). I remember talking to the gun shop owner, he told me that everyone east of the Manitoba border were selling and everyone west of the Ontario border were buying. Says a lot about Canadians.
I think we have something to learn from our American friends.
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I think you are very correct. Our American friends have more backbone.
 
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plinker 777 said:
Backbone, inherent legal right...potato, potahto.
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something like the second amendment in the US Constitution is not in the Canadian Constitution because we as a society elect turds like Trudeau. Where was the out cry when in 1982 the Constitution was drafted, and it did not include property rights let alone the 2nd Amendment. If Canadians really wanted a free society they would of spoke up. Legal rights or Not. The only time I have seen Canadians get excited and willing to protest on mass is when Rogers or Bell ups their cable rates on their monthly bills. Sheople, in Canada we have a lot. And that is why in the end we as a society will be disarmed, and fed whatever shiitte the government decides to give us. Yes I love Canada, but I do admire the Americans for their backbone.

We could have these "Legal Rights" if only we spoke up forcefully. And if we did there would be no bans on any semi auto rifle.
 
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